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Australian off season domestic 2012/13

Camo999

State 12th Man
Not sure re Magoffin but in the case of say Phil Jaques who I suspect has dual passports / citizenship, why is he prevented from being classified as a local player in both the Uk and Australia?
 

benchmark00

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Not sure re Magoffin but in the case of say Phil Jaques who I suspect has dual passports / citizenship, why is he prevented from being classified as a local player in both the Uk and Australia?
Well you can't be a local of two countries can you?
 

Camo999

State 12th Man
Well you can't be a local of two countries can you?
Hmmm perhaps not simultaneously but would've thought he'd be considered a local in whichever country he was in and just switch each cricket season.

Enjoying the Jarrod Oakley-Nicholls reference by the way.
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
Hughes dominates at the Adelaide Oval. Averages over 100 at the ground I believe.

Massive acquisition for South Australia.
 

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Oooooooo, mistake I reckon. One feels the big thing that got him as many chances as he did was how many runs he scored on tough decks. Cue cries of FTB no matter how many runs he scores (and he will score plenty).
 

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/* annual Redbacks pessimism alert

Dunno how much it'll affect the team's fortunes anyway. Last couple of years, getting good/solid starts hasn't been the biggest problem, the tail starting at 5 has been.

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EDIT: Maybe the selectors reckon that's solved with Christian and Cooper's form last year but how long will that last I wonder?
 
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Redbacks

International Captain
All the result of a wise decision by CA to boot credibility of the game by cutting the number of contracts until S Smith wasn't offered one.

We need Hughes strike rate to push for results, at the very least we will lose with some panache.
 

Jayzamann

International Regular
I distinctly remember reading in a thread somewhere, a bunch of you predicted this. NSW was brimming with POIs (I think that's the proper acronym) and some had to get squeezed out.

I'm just reading the article now, not sure what to think.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
/* annual Redbacks pessimism alert

Dunno how much it'll affect the team's fortunes anyway. Last couple of years, getting good/solid starts hasn't been the biggest problem, the tail starting at 5 has been.

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EDIT: Maybe the selectors reckon that's solved with Christian and Cooper's form last year but how long will that last I wonder?
I don't think the SA lineup will be that weak, Botha can hold up the tail from 7, which lets you play Ludeman or C***thwaite at 8 and three specialist bowlers. Who've you got in terms of middle order batsmen, apart from Christian and Cooper?

Hughes, Harris, Klinger, Cooper, (Batsman-that-isn't-Borgas), Christian, Botha, Ludeman/C***thwaite, Richardson, (Bowler) , George.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
Well you can't be a local of two countries can you?
Play them as f****** overseas players then, FFS. If South Australia can sign Johan f****** Botha, who has ZERO connection to Australia to begin with, there shouldn't be any issue with picking a former Australian Test player who feels like playing as a local in England.

Jaques, Robson, Magoffin, Hogan et al. should just be played as their state's overseas player. It's ridiculous they don't, FFS.
 

Dan

Hall of Fame Member
NSW to be left with no openers and be forced to play Sam Robson as an overseas player.

Maddinson and Patterson to gun it this year, IMO.
 

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I don't think the SA lineup will be that weak, Botha can hold up the tail from 7, which lets you play Ludeman or C***thwaite at 8 and three specialist bowlers. Who've you got in terms of middle order batsmen, apart from Christian and Cooper?

Hughes, Harris, Klinger, Cooper, (Batsman-that-isn't-Borgas), Christian, Botha, Ludeman/C***thwaite, Richardson, (Bowler) , George.
Exactly.

But let's assume no injuries so no need for backups. The team looks mildly competitive on paper but there are a lot of ifs in the 4-day team for both bats and bowls. Massive didn't have a great year in 11/12 so there's questions over him long-term and I do wonder whether Cooper and Christian will be able to follow-up last year's form. There's no genuine bowling gun there either, the whole attack reeks of 'serviceable' and the options aren't promising.

As I've said many times, SA have a cricketing system (used very loosely) which doesn't breed FC cricketers any more. Chadd Sayers averaged 12 with the ball last season and didn't look threatening at all when picked for SA and he's probably the best of the bunch; the top-10 were a bunch med-quick swing-bowlers, ripe for domination against batters of any class. So you're left with imports, hoping the blokes who showed form last year maintain it and that the bats don't get fatigued putting up 300+ a few times in a row only to watch the oppo sail past it at 4+/over. The requirement is a hell of a lot of ducks lining up for the team to be competitive. It's not impossible but it's pretty damn improbable.
 
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