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    *Official* VB Series (Ind,Aus,Zim) thread

    with a hot discussion going on the ind-aus series and the TVS cup being over, i think this is the right time to start the series.

    the series will be starting in less than 2 months from now.

    any predictions ?

    mine india will win it beating australia 2-1 in the finals.

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    As you say, the series is two months away!! This is ridiculous.
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    lol it's a bit early amit's.

    and BTW I know your a nice guy and all but did it ever occer to you that India just dont have as good a team man for man as Australia do and well all these predictions are well slightly insane.

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    Re: *Official* VB Series (Ind,Aus,Zim) thread

    Originally posted by amits
    with a hot discussion going on the ind-aus series and the TVS cup being over, i think this is the right time to start the series.

    the series will be starting in less than 2 months from now.

    any predictions ?

    mine india will win it beating australia 2-1 in the finals.


    You are a very optimistic fella arent you

    Just let me fill you in on a few figures

    India have played 28 matches in Australia , they have won 3 of them. The last of those wins was 24 years ago (Kapils day).
    Last time India came out here I remember the hype about them having 4 people who averaged over 50 in tests & they're experienced spin attack & how they would be ultra competitive.

    I didnt beleive it , even at age 12 , mailnly because I knew India played on slow low surfaces.

    Now if the India side of 1999/2000 couldnt do it then there is certainly nothing to convince me that the 2003/04 India side will do any better.
    Sehwag will be found out terribly , his fault with the back foot not moving across is a schoolboy sort of thing , Lee/Gillespie will expose that as they did to Dion Ebrahim who has a near identical flaw.

    Zaheer is simply not accurate enough to pose a threat out here.

    Harbhajan & Kumble will get no help at all (except maybe sydney) & therefore will do nothing at all.

    Patel is a poor batsman by international standards , the tail looks very long with him at 7.

    The feilding is to inconsistent.

    Only Tendulkar is a proven performer with the bat in Australian conditions , Ganguly & Dravid failed miserably last time , although they are better players now it would not entirelly suprise me if they did it again.

    They have a chance in the ODI's I reckon , a slight one but still a chance.
    Tell me Amits , if India cant win in their home conditions against an Australian team with its best 4 bowlers injured & 1 one of its frontline batsman , then how are they going to win against a full strength Aussie team on home turf??

    They have won 26/73 ODI's against Australia , and 18/50 in Australia (lost all of them against AUS last time)

    Also I think we should start making official threads about 2 weeks from the start of a series rather than a month or 2 , it just clogs up the board otherwise.
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    the reason to start this thread early was that the india in australia thread was also started 2 months earlier than the series :P

    the series starts on 9 jan and its already 19 nov.

    also david, lets not discuss test matches here. use it for odi discussion

    guys, i am not optimistic. its just that i know the full strengths of the indian team.

    if u all claim that australia were weakened, then i say that india were also weakened. india were withough ganguly and nehra almost throughout the series.

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    Australia had none of their bowling attack!

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    Originally posted by amits
    if u all claim that australia were weakened, then i say that india were also weakened. india were withough ganguly and nehra almost throughout the series.
    Mate India are gonna lose :P

    Fair enough , you los tyou're second choice seamer as well as you're captain/third best batsman

    We lost

    Our Best (arguably the greatest ever) spinner to suspension

    Our no 1 strike bowler (second fastest in the world)

    Our no 2 strike bowler

    Our best seamer (the backbone of our attack)

    Our experienced number 5/2nd spinner

    Queensland seamer Noffke who would have played if not for injury.

    So I think we were rather more handicapped there , yet even with the tournament held in India we won convincingly on all but 1 of those occasions.

    I reckon the reason you are optimistic is that you are Indian (see the link , Indian team , Indian , Indian team , Indian:duh: :P )

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    Originally posted by iamdavid
    Mate India are gonna lose :P

    Fair enough , you los tyou're second choice seamer as well as you're captain/third best batsman

    We lost

    Our Best (arguably the greatest ever) spinner to suspension

    Our no 1 strike bowler (second fastest in the world)

    Our no 2 strike bowler

    Our best seamer (the backbone of our attack)

    Our experienced number 5/2nd spinner

    Queensland seamer Noffke who would have played if not for injury.

    So I think we were rather more handicapped there , yet even with the tournament held in India we won convincingly on all but 1 of those occasions.

    I reckon the reason you are optimistic is that you are Indian (see the link , Indian team , Indian , Indian team , Indian:duh: :P )
    Add to that Darren Lehmann and you'll find India have a MUCH better position than us.

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    Originally posted by Mr. Ponting
    Add to that Darren Lehmann and you'll find India have a MUCH better position than us.
    When he said:

    "Our experienced number 5/2nd spinner"

    I'm sure he was referring to Lehmann.

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    Originally posted by Mr Mxyzptlk
    When he said:

    "Our experienced number 5/2nd spinner"

    I'm sure he was referring to Lehmann.
    OK, I thought he meant number 5 bowler/2nd spinner as MacGill, but maybe you are right. Although we did lose MacGill and he is certainly more a 2nd spinner than Lehmann so I rephrase that

    'Add to that Stuey MacGill'

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    I did mean Lehmann , in ODI's he fills the second spinner role , MacGill never plays ODI's.

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    Can't believe there's thread for this and the first game is 7 weeks away :rolleyes:
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    Originally posted by PY
    Can't believe there's thread for this and the first game is 7 weeks away :rolleyes:
    It would be better if we also start the Ind-Pak series thread which is only 12 weeks away :P .

    I feel too that India has a great chance of winning the series. The other team is Zim and so India is pretty sure of winning 4 matches in league stage which means their confidence will not be so down as it was last time. Last time around India had only three batsman- Dravid,Sachin and Ganguly. Laxman was in horrible form and Martin and Kanitkar aren't that good. Sehwag, Yuvraj , Kaif, Badani , Mongia , etc,. are much better than their preceeders . Go India

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    Originally posted by amits
    guys, i am not optimistic. its just that i know the full strengths of the indian team.
    :P :O :P :rolleyes:

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    when dose it start?
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