Has DRS helped spinners the most?

Sparkley · 23-02-2012, 03:37 PM

I don't have empirical data to back this up, but my gut feeling is that most of the decisions overturned with the DRS system have been when spinners have bowled. This begs the question : has the system helped spinners the most, perhaps more than necessary? What impact would the DRS have had on the reocrds of the great spinners of the past.

zaremba · 23-02-2012, 03:50 PM

I think it has helped the spinners most. I don't it's helped them "too much" though. It's just highlighted how poorly served they've been by generations of umpires in the past.

kyear2 · 23-02-2012, 04:54 PM

It has helped spinners more, especially to batsment pushing down the front pad. It has also hurt some fast bowlers when the umps see how many ball bounce over the stumps. Just my personal obsevations.

Jono · 23-02-2012, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparkley

I don't have empirical data to back this up, but my gut feeling is that most of the decisions overturned with the DRS system have been when spinners have bowled. This begs the question : has the system helped spinners the most, perhaps more than necessary? What impact would the DRS have had on the reocrds of the great spinners of the past.

What do you mean by this?

silentstriker · 23-02-2012, 05:38 PM

No, not too much. Use the bat. Too many batsmen got away with just padding up and it was a very negative style of play IMO. This is good.

Prince EWS · 23-02-2012, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by zaremba

I think it has helped the spinners most. I don't it's helped them "too much" though. It's just highlighted how poorly served they've been by generations of umpires in the past.

Yep, spot on.

Jono · 23-02-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

No, not too much. Use the bat. Too many batsmen got away with just padding up and it was a very negative style of play IMO. This is good.

SS just said spinners doing well is good

Flem274* · 23-02-2012, 06:21 PM

Sig that thang

silentstriker · 23-02-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jono

SS just said spinners doing well is good

Step and fetch it still better than batsmen though - always been consistant on that point.

thierry henry · 23-02-2012, 10:00 PM

Kinda weird that until the DRS umpires never figured out that faster bowlers usually got more bounce than spinners?

vic_orthdox · 23-02-2012, 11:40 PM

Especially in Australia, the UDRS (and to be fair, probably the wide use of hawk eye beforehand made umpires realise this too) showed how many balls were going over the top, even when hit on the crease.

nexxus · 24-02-2012, 12:22 AM

It made a complete fool of Kevin Pietersen, I think it's worth every penny purely because of that.

Oh, and the spinner thing, I've quite enjoyed that. It's ironic that erm, some people, hate it so much when it appears to have aided finger spinners far more than anyone else, and erm, those people, are historically quite dependent on spin.

Sparkley · 24-02-2012, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jono

What do you mean by this?

Some of the decisions overturned have been a little too marginal for mine.I'm all for DRS correcting the howlers but I'm not too comfortable with batsmen being given out lbw despite being well forward.Too much uncertainty there.Either that or give every thing that hawk eye shows hitting the stumps out. AT least that'd be more consistent.

Arachnodouche · 24-02-2012, 04:36 AM

It will probably help spinners of Ajmal's ilk, ones that rely on slight deviations, more than the conventionally huge turners like Warne or Murali. I think their returns would've dwindled drastically under DRS.

Outinthedeep · 24-02-2012, 05:01 AM

I think that DRS has helped spinners hugely. Umpires are no longer reluctant to dismiss LBW appeals simply because the batsmen has a stride in, and this has forced batsmen to play with their bat rather than their pad. And this has increased LBW dismissals.

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zaremba Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chez les Ashes Posts: 8,726	I think it has helped the spinners most. I don't it's helped them "too much" though. It's just highlighted how poorly served they've been by generations of umpires in the past.

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thierry henry International Captain Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 5,031	Kinda weird that until the DRS umpires never figured out that faster bowlers usually got more bounce than spinners?

23-02-2012, 11:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
vic_orthdox Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 24,363	Especially in Australia, the UDRS (and to be fair, probably the wide use of hawk eye beforehand made umpires realise this too) showed how many balls were going over the top, even when hit on the crease.

24-02-2012, 12:22 AM	#12 (permalink)
nexxus U19 12th Man Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Africa Posts: 268	It made a complete fool of Kevin Pietersen, I think it's worth every penny purely because of that. Oh, and the spinner thing, I've quite enjoyed that. It's ironic that erm, some people, hate it so much when it appears to have aided finger spinners far more than anyone else, and erm, those people, are historically quite dependent on spin.

24-02-2012, 04:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
Arachnodouche First Class Debutant Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 800	It will probably help spinners of Ajmal's ilk, ones that rely on slight deviations, more than the conventionally huge turners like Warne or Murali. I think their returns would've dwindled drastically under DRS.

24-02-2012, 05:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
Outinthedeep Cricket Spectator Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: England Posts: 1	I think that DRS has helped spinners hugely. Umpires are no longer reluctant to dismiss LBW appeals simply because the batsmen has a stride in, and this has forced batsmen to play with their bat rather than their pad. And this has increased LBW dismissals. I have just started my own cricket blog, please feel free to view and comment. http://outinthedeep.wordpress.com/ James

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