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    I cant do that so not sure either, but lets imagine someone comes along with an elbow bent at 45 degrees naturally.... where do we draw the line of ridiculous?
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    If someone can actually keep their arm at 45 degrees without excessive straightening and bowl usefully then all the power to them. Personally I don't think you could get any work on the ball at all from that sort of angle with the amount of effort you'd have to put in to not straighten the arm.
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    Maybe that's the case, but would it be bowling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Botha got caught because his doosra was measured at about 30 degrees IIRC.
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    Pakistan v England, 2011-12: Unravelling the mystery of Saeed Ajmal | Cricket Features | Pakistan v England | ESPN Cricinfo


    i pretty much don't understand anything in that article apart from "Ajmal's action is fine. That is a scientific fact."
    Indians can't bowl - Where has the rumour come from as I myself and many indian friends arwe competent fast bowlers ?

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    • The ICC is reluctant to discuss bowling actions in detail because officials fear the subject is too complicated to explain.


    Source: Pakistan v England 2011-12: The facts about Saeed Ajmal | Cricket News | Pakistan v England | ESPN Cricinfo


    I think we can believe the ICC here. Kudos to cricinfo for playing a part in clearing this doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    Pakistan v England, 2011-12: Unravelling the mystery of Saeed Ajmal | Cricket Features | Pakistan v England | ESPN Cricinfo


    i pretty much don't understand anything in that article apart from "Ajmal's action is fine. That is a scientific fact."
    you understand atomic and nuclear reactors? Science is just complicated sometimes to understand and at times, you just have to go by the words of guys who do this for a living.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    you understand atomic and nuclear reactors? Science is just complicated sometimes to understand and at times, you just have to go by the words of guys who do this for a living.
    yeah......lots of theories have gone on about this on CW during the past month.....some on CW claimed it as a conspiracy by the ICC
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    you understand atomic and nuclear reactors? Science is just complicated sometimes to understand and at times, you just have to go by the words of guys who do this for a living.
    Fmd, did you just compare a bowling action to nuclear science?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z-Man View Post
    • The ICC is reluctant to discuss bowling actions in detail because officials fear the subject is too complicated to explain.


    Source: Pakistan v England 2011-12: The facts about Saeed Ajmal | Cricket News | Pakistan v England | ESPN Cricinfo


    I think we can believe the ICC here. Kudos to cricinfo for playing a part in clearing this doubt.

    Thank you espncricinfo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spikey View Post
    Pakistan v England, 2011-12: Unravelling the mystery of Saeed Ajmal | Cricket Features | Pakistan v England | ESPN Cricinfo


    i pretty much don't understand anything in that article apart from "Ajmal's action is fine. That is a scientific fact."
    If you do not understand anything then it's better to accept the fact that his action has been scientifically cleared and within acceptable limits. It sure is best to accept his action based on technology than some one claiming "he chucks" by seeing just with the naked eye.

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    The devil is in the detail, before people get too excited.

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    Ajmal's action is well within the ICC range of tolerance. While he does bowl with a bend in his arm, it does not straighten more, on average, than about eight degrees.
    That doesn't tell us a great deal in actuality. He could bend his arm 12 degrees 15% of the time and that statement would be accurate. It also doesn't tell us anything about when he's tiring, when he's bowled his teesra or if he decides in a game to really 'rip' one early on in a batsman's innings as Warne used to and bends his arm a lot more to achieve it. It only tells us about his general bowling (excluding the teesra) in a general situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    The devil is in the detail, before people get too excited.



    That doesn't tell us a great deal in actuality. He could bend his arm 12 degrees 15% of the time and that statement would be accurate. It also doesn't tell us anything about when he's tiring, when he's bowled his teesra or if he decides in a game to really 'rip' one early on in a batsman's innings as Warne used to and bends his arm a lot more to achieve it. It only tells us about his general bowling (excluding the teesra) in a general situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scaly piscine View Post
    The devil is in the detail, before people get too excited.



    That doesn't tell us a great deal in actuality. He could bend his arm 12 degrees 15% of the time and that statement would be accurate. It also doesn't tell us anything about when he's tiring, when he's bowled his teesra or if he decides in a game to really 'rip' one early on in a batsman's innings as Warne used to and bends his arm a lot more to achieve it. It only tells us about his general bowling (excluding the teesra) in a general situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a spambot View Post
    if this was coming from bitterness or whatever they would also be accusing rehman but no one has said a word about him. face it, they're calling him a chucker because he looks an awful lot like one.
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