Why is Ellis being seen as someone who offers something to the team?
In my case, your dislike for him (and everyone elses) makes me like him more.
It's my Grant Elliott thing all over again, except without Grant Elliott. Ellis WAG!!
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and Elliott actually had a period where he performed exceptionally well in ODIs.
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I don't dislike Ellis. I think he has a great attitude and is a quality first class allrounder. But he really isn't good enough with either bat or ball at this level.
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A 5 man attack with Ellis isn't really a 5 man attack.
It's an awesome man attack.
Bits and pieces allrounders offer nothing in test cricket. Invariably they are shown up in both disciplines. We are better off picking the next specialist off the block if Arnel is not up to it, and that is going back to Boult who shouldn't have been overlooked in the first place.
Last edited by Neil Young; 16-03-2012 at 04:06 AM.
Ellis does rip it up with the ball in the Shield. I'd be curious to see him bowl in the whites. NZC to post highlights of him.
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That leaves 2 spots Don't really see anyone really banging down the door - who is your team? taking into account that Boult will not be picked in the next test.
I'm starting to think people judge Ellis on how he looks and not how he performs.
I wouldn't put my house on him, but he is the best allrounder (Franklin sucks at bowling Athlai) in FC cricket and even if he were to perform to his domestic career averages, which are much worse than how he has actually performed in the past two years, he would not be a bits and pieces player.
I don't think he will succeed if picked, but it's a bit harsh to write him off so early based on appearances and I really hope he does well if picked because I love it when supposedly **** players gun it.
While I take you pr point about writing him off before he has played, I just feel I have seen plenty of his ilk over the years come up short in test cricket. Not just for NZ, for any number of test teams. Not least England in the nineties.
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