Sangakkara and Dale Steyn retain 2011 ICC top spots

[kyear2]

Because he did most of his scoring against **** attacks or in very high scoring games.

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While one cannot totally rate a player based on the ratings, I does offer some insight into a players career and stats.
Wasim Akram for example is universally lauded, he never cracked the 900 ratings barrier because of his disproportionately high number of lower order wickets taken. It doesn't make him a bad bowler, just makes us take a second look or ask more questions.

Additioally its not so much your peak total thats more important, but the percentage of tour career spent over 900. That is the most telling as it speaks to consistent brilliance and not just one good year or season.

[Migara]

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While one cannot totally rate a player based on the ratings, I does offer some insight into a players career and stats.
Wasim Akram for example is universally lauded, he never cracked the 900 ratings barrier because of his disproportionately high number of lower order wickets taken. It doesn't make him a bad bowler, just makes us take a second look or ask more questions.

Additioally its not so much your peak total thats more important, but the percentage of tour career spent over 900. That is the most telling as it speaks to consistent brilliance and not just one good year or season.

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That's what makes Murali a bloody brilliant bowler. I am quite sure that he spent highest % of his career cracking over 800 compared to contemporary bowlers. May be McGrath has edge over him, but any other spinner I am not sure.

[Prince EWS]

How is it that MoYo has a record for the most runs in a calender year but does not have the greatest Test Batting rank.

Because, shock horror, the rankings take more into account than your 12-month aggregate.

[Cabinet96]

Because, shock horror, the rankings take more into account than your 12-month aggregate.

My exact thoughts. They're the last 3 or 4 years aren't they?

[Flem274*]

I remember it was Kyle Mills for a while a couple of years ago. Wasn't Hafeez top recently?

Steins been top of the test rankings for about 3 years though hasn't he?

Mills was world class between 2007-2010/2011 tbh.

[Prince EWS]

My exact thoughts. They're the last 3 or 4 years aren't they?

Haha they're a lot more complicated than even that. It doesn't just rank players based on how many runs they've scored or wickets they've taken in Period X; it factors in the number of matches the individual has played, the number of matches the team has played, the standard of the opposition, the other scores in the match and lots of other things.

I haven't really looked into too closely but personally I'm not that big of it and reckon I've come up with a better system. But really, anyone who creates their own system and weights each aspect exactly how he or she thinks it should be weighted is going to think it's the best, so it's not a great wrap.

[Flem274*]

Do you actually feed ODI stuff into CPL for kicks?

It would be interesting to see what it has to say.

[Prince EWS]

Do you actually feed ODI stuff into CPL for kicks?

It would be interesting to see what it has to say.

The lack of games the minnows play and the fact that they play against themselves mostly would throw up some really, really weird results I think; but then again the ICC ODI rankings do that with some of the minnow players too. I'd probably just decide that only games between the top 11 teams or something were actually ODIs, but even then Bangladesh and Zimbabwe playing each other so much would mean they both became over-rated as oppositions.

It'd be reasonably quick to do an international one I think because I get that stuff automatically; I'd just need to change my code. Domestic stuff is done largely manually though so it'd take me ages to incorporate that (again though; not that the ICC ratings do that either ).

[Flem274*]

Just make Mills number one and be done with it.

[smalishah84]

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That's what makes Murali a bloody brilliant bowler. I am quite sure that he spent highest % of his career cracking over 800 compared to contemporary bowlers. May be McGrath has edge over him, but any other spinner I am not sure.

Has to be in top 3 in terms of that/....

[8ankitj]

2011 review: ESPNcricinfo's Test and ODI XIs of 2011 | Cricket Features | Review 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo

Ajmal picked in both test and ODI XIs of 2011 by Cricinfo.

[smalishah84]

Ajmal is such a gun

Brumby will surely love this news

[Howe_zat]

2011 review: ESPNcricinfo's Test and ODI XIs of 2011 | Cricket Features | Review 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo

Ajmal picked in both test and ODI XIs of 2011 by Cricinfo.

Sanga missed out of the Test side is a mistake. Other than that, nothing to argue with. Hafeez getting in is a touch weird but you could say no-one's done his job better, so fair cop.

[BoyBrumby]

2011 review: ESPNcricinfo's Test and ODI XIs of 2011 | Cricket Features | Review 2011 | ESPN Cricinfo

Ajmal picked in both test and ODI XIs of 2011 by Cricinfo.

Six Englishmen in the test XI, none in the ODI team. Sounds about right.

Ajmal is such a gun

Brumby will surely love this news

Nah, fair play to the old Spanish archer. Dirty, stinking chucker tho, obvz.

[smalishah84]