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Thread: Treat Amir more leniently : Brearley

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    Nothing be said here that hasn't already been said ad nauseam in other threads. I don't understand Brearley's garbled message, and I can't be bothered trying to decode it any more than I can be bothered arguing with people who reckon we should be dishing out life bans to teenagers.

    Far more importantly I'm concerned to see another pompously titled cricket lecture - "the Voice of Cricket Speech" no less. At least they've not called it a ****ing "Oration" though. Small mercies.

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    At least Zaremba is consistent with his hatred for named speeches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naumaan View Post
    I think it doesn't matter what others say, Amir himself should never play the game again. If somehow he manages to play for Pakistan, there will be more haters for Pak Team.
    I've no problem with people serving their bans, working hard, and earning their place back into a team.

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    Don't think he should be let off now though. You can be stupid and serve your time and get a shot at redemption but you can't let being a dumb **** be a free ticket.
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    But I don't think most people will want him back after he has served his ban. If he is good enough to represent Pakistan, no team will want to play Pakistan as long as he is in the team and no one would want to watch Pakistan play. That's why I think he shouldn't come back at all. Plus will he even get a visa to tour England in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    I think if Amir had made a clean breast of it I'd have been more minded to agree with Brearley. As I recall it though the trial judge didn't accept that his admission of guilt was a full disclosure, effectively saying Amir was still being less than candid.

    I must admit I'm still in two minds as to whether Amir is an ingenue lead astray or just an idiot. Or a combination of both.
    I am willing to a thousand dollars that he was up to his neck in skull duggery in other matches. If it had've been a full confession he would've been treated better.
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    Death penalty IMHO

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    I said he should be treated leniently in the other thread (the first one IIRC). I haven't seen any reason to change my mind since then.

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    Bollocks.

    Criminals shouldn't get dumbass discounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    Bollocks.

    Criminals shouldn't get dumbass discounts.
    You don't think criminals should get credit for pleading guilty? Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    You don't think criminals should get credit for pleading guilty? Really?
    Didn't say that.

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    Speaking personally I think doing away with sentencing discounts for guilty pleas is an excellent idea ......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Speaking personally I think doing away with sentencing discounts for guilty pleas is an excellent idea ......................
    Not sure if you're serious or not, but that would ensure that every case goes to trial, which would be a huge burden on the tax payers. Also, it would take away any incentive for a "less important" defendant to testify against the "big guns" if there's no promise of a lenient sentence.

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    Just making the point about who the winners would be if there were no discounts for plea - to be entirely serious I don't think that the one third off that you get in the UK for an early plea is actually enough - if the government really wants to cut down on trials they should be a bit more imaginative

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    He's saying that because he passionately believes in it. Nothing, I'm sure, to do with the fact that he earns more from cases that go to trial...

    Edit: beaten to it by the great man himself

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