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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    Don't know if I'd say India had 3-4 world class spinners at once, and during the 70s they had other problems anyway.

    Just saying I don't see why its impossible.
    Because with the way the schedule is, you're going to play as many games away as at home. So if you play an attack centred on mediocre pace but decent/ great spinners in SA, England or here, you'll get dutifully smacked.

    WI in the 80s and Aus 00s show you can succeeed on flat/ turning pitches with very good/ great quicks. Even SA's record with Donald and Pollock on the SC was pretty decent IIRC (cbf looking it up). The reverse just isn't the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    haha.......at least get SL get back to really competitive rather than making them a dominant force overnight
    Well if you're happy with 3rd-5th for your team, that's fine. If you're aiming for that you're aiming to fail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Because with the way the schedule is, you're going to play as many games away as at home. So if you play an attack centred on mediocre pace but decent/ great spinners in SA, England or here, you'll get dutifully smacked.

    WI in the 80s and Aus 00s show you can succeeed on flat/ turning pitches with very good/ great quicks. Even SA's record with Donald and Pollock on the SC was pretty decent IIRC (cbf looking it up). The reverse just isn't the case.
    In my book the best spinners should succeed all over the globe too.

    I agree that fast bowlers have the advantage, I just don't think its impossible and we will probably see it happen at some point
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    Quote Originally Posted by NasserFan207 View Post
    In my book the best spinners should succeed all over the globe too.

    I agree that fast bowlers have the advantage, I just don't think its impossible and we will probably see it happen at some point
    They maybe should, but they won't.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Well if you're happy with 3rd-5th for your team, that's fine. If you're aiming for that you're aiming to fail.
    dude.....I think senility is setting in with you ......think about what I have said

    making them dominant overnight and over time are 2 different things.

    Things don't change overnight, you require time and you need to set goals to reach over a period of time.
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    dude.....I think senility is setting in with you ......think about what I have said

    making them dominant overnight and over time are 2 different things.

    Things don't change overnight, you require time and you need to set goals to reach over a period of time.
    And I think lack of any understanding of cricket is settling in with you. But I've thought that for quite some time, seeing as you want to deal in gratuitious insults.

    Your plan has to be number one. If you are aiming lower than that you are aiming too low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    And I think lack of any understanding of cricket is settling in with you. But I've thought that for quite some time, seeing as you want to deal in gratuitious insults.

    Your plan has to be number one. If you are aiming lower than that you are aiming too low.
    sorry about that but your post sounded really condescending

    My point is that it is all good to say "aim for the top spot" but reality is that it takes time to get there. You don't wake up one morning and say "we are the kings of the world from now on".

    It takes prep and planning and you take it piece meal. Their are short term, medium term, and long term targets that have to be met.

    SL needs to have those in place.

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    Every time I read Burgey's post about SL needing a fast bowler to be a top team I think of this bloke:



    Chill out Burgey, I've got this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Every time I read Burgey's post about SL needing a fast bowler to be a top team I think of this bloke:



    Chill out Burgey, I've got this...

    If he had to do the same again, he would my friend..

    Decent ones ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    sorry about that but your post sounded really condescending

    My point is that it is all good to say "aim for the top spot" but reality is that it takes time to get there. You don't wake up one morning and say "we are the kings of the world from now on".

    It takes prep and planning and you take it piece meal. Their are short term, medium term, and long term targets that have to be met.

    SL needs to have those in place.
    Fine, but if their plan lacks a strategy to base their attack around a decent stable of fast bowlers they will not excel in enough places to be considered a long term number one side.

    Look, I remember when our side in the 80s had Border plus young guns like
    Waugh, Boon and Jones. But it didn't matter when we had Tony ****ing Dodemaide taking new rock.
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    Yeah and now you have Siddle taking it. Least he runs in all day etc...

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Yeah and now you have Siddle taking it. Least he runs in all day etc...
    Indeed. This only proves my point though. England could have come here and scored twice as many runs as they did last year, and have had two or three LolSwanns in their attack. It wouldn't have mattered. Their quicks did the damage. Its why they're number one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    Indeed. This only proves my point though. England could have come here and scored twice as many runs as they did last year, and have had two or three LolSwanns in their attack. It wouldn't have mattered. Their quicks did the damage. Its why they're number one.
    Agreed, and why we look like we may stay as top dog for a bit and will almost certainly be top 3 for a while as we have depth to our pace attack where most sides are struggling to find 3 decent ones to put on the field at the same time.

    It is why Zimbabwe have more potential than Bangladesh to improve and give the better sides a run for their money as they have a couple of decent pacemen to go with their good spinner, Bangladesh are a 1 man attack and will always struggle until Shakib gets some help. Sri Lanka aren't even a 1 man attack at present which is a bit depressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgey View Post
    If he had to do the same again, he would my friend..

    Decent ones ffs.
    Dilara is decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibbertyjibber View Post
    Agreed, and why we look like we may stay as top dog for a bit and will almost certainly be top 3 for a while as we have depth to our pace attack where most sides are struggling to find 3 decent ones to put on the field at the same time.

    It is why Zimbabwe have more potential than Bangladesh to improve and give the better sides a run for their money as they have a couple of decent pacemen to go with their good spinner, Bangladesh are a 1 man attack and will always struggle until Shakib gets some help. Sri Lanka aren't even a 1 man attack at present which is a bit depressing.
    A lot of your first choicers are at the right age to be at it near their prime too. From our POV we have some good ones coming through but they're a while off what you'd expect their peaks to be, assuming they even stay fit enough to be long term options.

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