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The better opener: Anwar vs. Sehwag (tests)

The better opener?

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Burgey

Burgey

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miscer said:
it is my opinion that a subcontinental batsman's rating as far as being a FTB goes is dependent almost entirely on his performance is Australia.

Just quickly viewing the records gives evidence to this:
-Mo Yo: ave 31 in aus = FTB
-samaraweera: ave 22 in aus = FTB
-Sehwag: ave 60 in aus = ATG but not that great against seam/swing
-Anwar: ave 47 in aus = One of the great openers of the 90s.
-Jayawardene: ave 34 in aus = FTB
-sangakkara: ave 64 in aus = ATG, superb against pace.

now if u check their averages combined in NZ, AUS, ENG and SAF it seems like a lot of batsmen on the list who are considered FTB's aren't that far down the list and players considered great players of pace aren't that great. But all that doesn't matter, Australia matters. Lets do that in fact.

-Sangakkara and Anwar are on top: 43

BUT WAIT

-The "FTB" Mo Yo is second: 42 with the most 100s out of anyone in the list 5. HOW??!
-Sehwag: 34
-Jayawardene: 32
-Samaraweera: 31

But anyway the fact remains none of these guys have had much success outside the subcontinent on wickets made for fast bowling. Since 1990 the best subcontinental batsman in these 4 countries has actually been Guatam Gambhir! (with tendulkar and then dravid just trailing by a bit).

(edit: large parts of the post are sarcasm so don't get mad).
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This is spot on, but you should have added England in recent times and SA as well. I'd not include NZ so much as since Bond and Cairns went by the wayside they haven't really had such consistent quicker bowlers (though hopefully that changes).

If you'd done that you'd have been spot on. Main thing is to exclude the SC when it comes to assessing players of fast bowling .
 
KiWiNiNjA

KiWiNiNjA

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miscer said:
-Sehwag: ave 60 in aus = ATG but not that great against seam/swing
-sangakkara: ave 64 in aus = ATG, superb against pace.
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But but but but Sehwag only averages 4 runs less than Sangakkara in Australia, he obviously can handle seam/swing as much as Sangakkara.

Sangakkara is worth only 4 runs more against seam/swing.

:cool:
 
ankitj

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Can you all state clearly what you are trying to say? A one line summary before your post? I have no clue what's happening in this thread :unsure:
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

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KiWiNiNjA said:
But but but but Sehwag only averages 4 runs less than Sangakkara in Australia, he obviously can handle seam/swing as much as Sangakkara.

Sangakkara is worth only 4 runs more against seam/swing.

:cool:
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Yeah because there's always a lot of swing in Australia... :/

Australian conditions typically test a batsman's worth against pace and bounce (as well as, until recently, consistently high class bowling from both ends..); it's pretty rare to get a lot of swing and seam at an Australian Test venue, this season just gone against New Zealand excepted. England and South Africa would be better examples.
 
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