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    Quote Originally Posted by hazsa19 View Post
    'Light years' ahead of Jimmy? Are you mad? I would put Steyn slightly ahead yes, but if you were picking a dream current bowling attack, they would instantly be on the list. You would have to think hard about the third.

    Hes also shown he can do it on not so great bowling conditions. Last years Ashes springs to mind, you're telling me that Adelaide, MCG and SCG were bowling paradises? Our batsman didn't think so. I wouldn't call Lords, Edgbaston and the Oval notably great for bowling either.

    Their respective records of course favour Steyn, hes been great for longer. Can't look past Jummys record in the last 2 years though.
    You do realize that statistically, the current Oz batting lineup is the worst we have fielded in over 100 years so any success against them has to be taken with a huuuuuuuuuge grain of salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by sreeku7 View Post
    IMO the standard of fast bowling has gone down during the last seven years.Now there are no bowlers who can consistently bowl at 150+.Brett lee used to do that easily.So did Shoaib.For England Simon Jones and Harminson clocked 150 occasionally.Steyn and Morkel were faster a couple of years ago.Now they are struggling to clock 150 kmph.The present crop of English and Australian fast bowlers are definitely inferior to the likes Simon Jones,Harminson, Flintoff Brette Lee,Gillesppie and of course Mcgrath.
    To be fair, both Steyn and Morkel don't bowl as quick as they can. Morkel has sacrificed pace in order to bowl a slightly fuller, and more effective, length. The Morkel of 2008 was clocking 90mph+ regularly but was erratic as a result. The Morkel of today is definitely better than the slightly quicker Morkel of 2 or 3 years ago.

    Finn, Cummins, Patinson are all people who you can except to be bowling quickly in a few years. None of them have reached their peaks yet, but can already tickle the speed gun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    You do realize that statistically, the current Oz batting lineup is the worst we have fielded in over 100 years so any success against them has to be taken with a huuuuuuuuuge grain of salt
    Maybe they've done statistically badly because Jimmy ripped through them in the Ashes. While I do agree with your main point, your argument is slightly contradictory there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    You do realize that statistically, the current Oz batting lineup is the worst we have fielded in over 100 years so any success against them has to be taken with a huuuuuuuuuge grain of salt
    Ah right I see now. And success against India is just because of the pitches? Gotcha


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Maybe they've done statistically badly because Jimmy ripped through them in the Ashes. While I do agree with your main point, your argument is slightly contradictory there.
    Read and weep (if you're an Oz supporter)

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    Last edited by social; 12-12-2011 at 12:26 PM.

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    Steyn is daylights ahead of any other current bowler. He is about to become (if not already) an ATG. He has a strike rate better than Waqar, and that is saying something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Read and weep (if you're an Oz supporter)

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    Wow, Pak is the only one to have done it twice to the Aussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazsa19 View Post
    Imagine Steyn and Anderson as a new ball pairing!
    Not hard to imagine them playing together at all.


    But seriously, my favourite player is better than your favourite player!
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    I wonder who the third seamer would be in a current Test XI?

    Personally I would go with a death over specialist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    Not hard to imagine them playing together at all.

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    Oz and England have the best stocks right now. Onions, Finn, Starc, Hazelwood, Pattinson, and Cummins all look mighty promising

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA View Post
    Not hard to imagine them playing together at all.


    But seriously, my favourite player is better than your favourite player!
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    Sorry but Jimmy has literally had about 2 top quality years in test cricket and the vast majority of his great performances have been in perfect bowling conditions

    He is light years behind Steyn (as their respective records indicate, I might add)
    Even when pitches and conditions are not conducive to Jimmy's natural style, he has found a way to be effective. His two top quality years have been just that, consistently top quality and not always in perfect bowling conditions at all.

    He isn't light years behind Steyn, he may be behind as he hasn't had the success on the sub-continent that Steyn has but he will certainly return there a much improved bowler than last time out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by social View Post
    You'd hope he would be ahead of the Aussie bowlers as most of them are still in diapers

    Anyway, Jimmeh was completely rank during the '09 Ashes and averaged 35 in SA shortly thereafter

    He is a massive beneficiary of juiced up tracks and declining batting standards and not in the same class as Steyn
    Juiced up tracks??? really, which are these juiced up tracks you speak of because I can't think of too many in England, if it's overcast the ball swings but that's as far as it goes. I mean you'd have to be about as dishonest as can be to say he's benefited from juiced up tracks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacknife View Post
    Juiced up tracks??? really, which are these juiced up tracks you speak of because I can't think of too many in England, if it's overcast the ball swings but that's as far as it goes. I mean you'd have to be about as dishonest as can be to say he's benefited from juiced up tracks.
    Exactly. Jimmy's best performances against India were on the final day at Lords, always a flat track, and the 4th day at Birmingham, where England had racked up 700.

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