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    If his performances do genuinely decline, it would be sad to see India continue to select him just to notch up this one fairly meaningless (agree with brumby) statistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12 View Post
    If his performances do genuinely decline, it would be sad to see India continue to select him just to notch up this one fairly meaningless (agree with brumby) statistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daemon View Post
    i'm not going to make a call. The last time i did that for dravid he scored 6 hundreds in 12 months.
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    Should he retire? Probably not. He would make the team on merit.....if somehow Yuvraj keeps making it.

    Will he be dropped? No chance. He could not score any runs for years and he wouldn't be dropped. The last thing a politician wants to do is to piss off millions of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Even aside from the obvious point that no Indian selector is going to want to be perceived as having Sachin's scalp hanging from his belt, he's still patently in the best six batsmen in India.

    The 100 100s thing gets on my tits tho. It's a completely meaningless and made up milestone. When have statisticians ever added ODI & test centuries together?
    TBF, ODIs weren't really been played all that often before the mid eighties so obviously such a stat wouldn't exist. As much as I hate counting ODI and Test runs as equals, I've heard commentators/statisticians say 'international runs' and 'international centuries' quite often (and they just take the aggregate).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloquentia View Post
    Given he's proving now that he's not test standard & probably never was (got lucky a few times) it begs the question - should he save his already shattered fathom of pride and retire?
    IMO he should tighten up his technique to prove to himself that he is Test class before he quits. He should get tips on footwork from Sehwag, on orthodox shot making from Dhoni, and on how to make most of your chances from Yuvraj.

    And finally, how to physically prepare for cricket from Atul Sharma.

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    They aren't brave enough to drop him, and like Crabbage said, he shouldn't retire until he wants to, but he is seeming to lack the motivation ala 2003-06. Not that that's not understandable - apart from the 100 100's mark, what else is there to achieve? Also think that's a reason why Ponting's in decline, too.

    Still, given his pre-WC form, he's still one of India's best 6 batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    TBF, ODIs weren't really been played all that often before the mid eighties so obviously such a stat wouldn't exist. As much as I hate counting ODI and Test runs as equals, I've heard commentators/statisticians say 'international runs' and 'international centuries' quite often (and they just take the aggregate).
    I've only ever heard that for Tendulkar tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Nationaux View Post
    Sachin should make his 100th 100 and then retire. It's always best to go when on top and the 100th 100 in a last innings would be the best for someone as great as him.
    Wouldnt it be great that he retires with 99 centuries.....The don with average of 99 and Sachin with 99 hundreds......"pretty brandmanisque"....I would say??
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    Even aside from the obvious point that no Indian selector is going to want to be perceived as having Sachin's scalp hanging from his belt, he's still patently in the best six batsmen in India.

    The 100 100s thing gets on my tits tho. It's a completely meaningless and made up milestone. When have statisticians ever added ODI & test centuries together?
    I honestly have no problem with that statistic. 100 international centuries is something no one else has been close to achieving and as you step into uncharted territory you do create new milestones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    TBF, ODIs weren't really been played all that often before the mid eighties so obviously such a stat wouldn't exist. As much as I hate counting ODI and Test runs as equals, I've heard commentators/statisticians say 'international runs' and 'international centuries' quite often (and they just take the aggregate).
    Funnily enough, you will find it was mostly started when Sunny G was talking about Sachin T.


    I willl believe it means something when they add up T20, Test and ODI hundreds for the next player who gets somewhere near.


    But international 100s are still international 100s. And I think the fact that he is gonna get more than 50 100s in each format is the REAL big deal. 20 years and all these 100s and just the simple ability that he is good enough to score 100s in tests AND ODIs after all these years are the real awesome things about him right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Lol @ the idea that anyone who has had the 2010 that Sachin has had should retire simply due to one bad series in 2011.
    This. Big deal that he average 34 in any one series.

    Can't believe people are taking this thread seriously. Guess shows the pressure's of being Sachin.

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    It's interesting isn't it, because the last time Sachin failed throughout a test series was back in 08 in SL, and that series we also lost. In fact we failed as a whole batting unit (bar Sehwag/Gambhir in SL and Dravid in Eng) in that series also, much like the recent England series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    It's interesting isn't it, because the last time Sachin failed throughout a test series was back in 08 in SL, and that series we also lost. In fact we failed as a whole batting unit (bar Sehwag/Gambhir in SL and Dravid in Eng) in that series also, much like the recent England series.
    Actually the performance of the batting unit in England and South Africa when compared wasn't that hugely different in terms of averages. Sachin was the main man in South Africa while Dravid was in England. Though the timing of the runs was way better in SA and then was complemented in the last 2 tests by bowlers with Zaheer coming back and the rest stepping up.

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