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    Quote Originally Posted by benchmark00 View Post
    Ummm it's relevant because cost of living is lower in lower socio-economic regions. So you don't compare salaries from SL to salaries from Switzerland for example.

    You can live more comfortable in SL with less money than you can in London for example.
    If you want to live without modern conveniences, sure. But buying a Toyota is still going to cost close to similar between London and SL. The fact that the majority of your countrymen can't afford a car, or can't pay for their kids expensive cancer treatment, doesn't mean you should give up opportunity to have and do those things....just because you want to hit a few more stumps with your ball while wearing a specific jersey? I would consider that very irresponsible of me if my family came from a poor background.

    AFAIK Grade A is somewhere around 100k....all the way down to grade E, which is somewhere around 20k USD...that is, when they actually do get paid.

    Good luck planning a retirement after only 7-10 years of that (esp for a fast bowler).
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    Btw, didn't Andy Flower recently say in response to Dhoni "We don't pass Judgements/Make Comments on other players and teams" or something on those lines IIRC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Btw, didn't Andy Flower recently say in response to Dhoni "We don't pass Judgements on other players and teams" or something on those lines IIRC?
    If you read more than the first couple of lines you would notice Flower doesn't actually 'slam' Malinga at all - its more Flower saying that money is now the dominating factor, not representing your country and testing yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rvd619323 View Post
    If you read more than the first couple of lines you would notice Flower doesn't actually 'slam' Malinga at all - its more Flower saying that money is now the dominating factor, not representing your country and testing yourself.
    “I have seen some of the comments. As a principle we try to focus on our jobs and we refrain from making moral judgment about others”

    That is pretty much a moral judgement.

    How can he know for sure why Malinga quit tests in the first place in any case? Also not saying that he shouldn't say anything about Malinga or not, but he can't have it both ways.
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    Pretty clear Flower's just a bit annoyed that it's come to this, rather than having a go at Malinga. He's correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Haha, perfect summary. Something to keep in mind next time someone decries someone for a lack of 'loyalty'. As if you should be loyal to a shirt with an emblem on it and a bunch of people you've never met over your family and yourself.
    I suppose public parks/ovals, schools, acadamies, comps etc. provide no support whatsoever to a player.

    I can understand other people being dissapointed with the decision given elite pathways exists to produce test players amongst other things.

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    Here's Flowers comments without the prism of junk journalism...

    ICC news: Andy Flower worried over future of Test cricket | Cricket News | England | ESPN Cricinfo

    He probably shouldn't mention Malinga unless he knows he harbours a desire (and has the physical ability) to play test cricket. But the broader point still stands. If he is specifically attacking the SA and Aussie boards for this tour though, he needs to be specific about his own employers and the ludicrous scheduling of next summer (as Strauss already has done).

    Overall, the more people speaking out about the damage administrators are doing to the game the better as far as I am concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keeper View Post
    Here's Flowers comments without the prism of junk journalism...

    ICC news: Andy Flower worried over future of Test cricket | Cricket News | England | ESPN Cricinfo

    He probably shouldn't mention Malinga unless he knows he harbours a desire (and has the physical ability) to play test cricket. But the broader point still stands. If he is specifically attacking the SA and Aussie boards for this tour though, he needs to be specific about his own employers and the ludicrous scheduling of next summer (as Strauss already has done).

    Overall, the more people speaking out about the damage administrators are doing to the game the better as far as I am concerned.
    He's only mentioning Malinga as an example of someone who's given up Tests to play limited overs; he makes no judgement on Malinga's decision to do so other than to say that it's a shame a player like Malinga is lost to Test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveNZ View Post
    Haha, perfect summary. Something to keep in mind next time someone decries someone for a lack of 'loyalty'. As if you should be loyal to a shirt with an emblem on it and a bunch of people you've never met over your family and yourself.
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    My reading is that Flower is bemoaning a system rather than slamming/bashing/tearing into Malinga.

    He's saying it's a shame a very individual talent has been lost to the sport's gold standard because of a system that means he's better rewarded elsewhere.

    I don't blame Malinga myself, but will say there are lots of examples of other sportsmen turning down higher salaries to continue to represent their countries. More or less every Australian or New Zealand Super 15 rugby player could earn much more money by coming to play in the UK or France, but the vast majority don't because it would mean giving away tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    My reading is that Flower is bemoaning a system rather than slamming/bashing/tearing into Malinga.

    He's saying it's a shame a very individual talent has been lost to the sport's gold standard because of a system that means he's better rewarded elsewhere.

    I don't blame Malinga myself, but will say there are lots of examples of other sportsmen turning down higher salaries to continue to represent their countries. More or less every Australian or New Zealand Super 15 rugby player could earn much more money by coming to play in the UK or France, but the vast majority don't because it would mean giving away tests.
    Would also mean moving their families halfway round the world , in the case of France to a different culture and language as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    SLC cricketers get paid ****. If someone quadrupled your salary for 1/10th your work, you'd do it too. Unless you're actually making an excellent wage from your board - which only applies to Indian, English, Autralian and South African cricketers.
    AWTA. Wasn't there an article that stated that they haven't been paid since the World Cup?This isn't the first time either that that's happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g.i.joe View Post
    awta. Wasn't there an article that stated that they haven't been paid since the world cup?this isn't the first time either that that's happened.



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