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Old 29-10-2003, 02:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Australian Cricketers Rankings

I have developed a ranking system for the Australian Cricket Players this year for both Tests & ODI's (updated after every game Australia plays). It revolves around points obtained through my criteria, my criteria just does not revolve around runs scored or wickets taken, but it also takes into account other factors such as batters strike rates, bowlers economy, number of madiens a bowler has bowled, not outs by batsmen etc. Here are my rankings to date this year. Feel free to agree or disagree with them. There are some suprises, though some players are further down the rankings then they should be due to injuries obtained this year etc.

2003 Test Match Rankings (as of Australia vs. Zimbabwe 2nd Test at the Sydney Cricket Ground)

Batting
No.1: Mathew Hayden - 2062 points@171.83 points per innings
No.2: Ricky Ponting - 1279@127.90
No.3: Steve Waugh - 1181@168.71
No.4: Adam Gilchrist - 1070@133.75
No.5: Darren Lehmann - 1025@113.88
No.6: Justin Langer - 794@56.71
No.7: Andy Bichel - 262@37.42
No.8: Martin Love - 255@51.00
No.9: Damien Martyn - 117@29.25
No.10: Brett Lee - 107@15.28
No.11: Simon Katich - 64@64.00
No.12: Jason Gillespie - 57@19.00
No.13: Brad Hogg - 22@11.00
No.14: Stuart MacGill - 16@3.20
No.15: Glenn McGrath - 13@13.00
No.16: Brad Williams - 4@4.00

Bowling
No.1: Stuart MacGill - 1488@93.00
No.2: Jason Gillespie - 1215@75.93
No.3: Brett Lee - 1057@62.17
No.4: Andy Bichel - 862@61.57
No.5: Glenn McGrath - 394@49.25
No.6: Simon Katich - 247@123.50
No.7: Brad Hogg - 229@38.16
No.8: Darren Lehmann - 156@22.28
No.9: Brad Williams - 128@64.00
No.10: Damien Martyn - 34@11.33
No.11: Steve Waugh - 21@2.10
No.12: Ricky Ponting - 0@0.00


2003 ODI Rankings (as of India vs Australia, 2nd Match of the TVS Cup at the Captain Roop Singh Stadium)

Batting
No.1: Ricky Ponting - 1428@71.40
No.2: Adam Gilchrist - 1275@53.12
No.3: Damien Martyn - 1077@97.90
No.4: Mathew Hayden - 990@45.00
No.5: Andrew Symonds - 883@63.07
No.6: Darren Lehmann - 682@75.77
No.7: Michael Bevan - 645@58.63
No.8: Michael Clarke - 352@176.00
No.9: Brad Hogg - 333@37.00
No.10: Andy Bichel - 283@56.60
No.11: Jimmy Maher - 141@17.62
No.12: Ian Harvey - 104@14.85
No.13: Shane Watson - 59@59.00
No.14: Brett Lee - 58@7.25
No.15: Nathan Hauritz - 19@19.00
No.16: Brad Williams - 9@ n/a
No.17: Jason Gillespie - 8@ n/a
No.18: Glenn McGrath - 8@ n/a
No.19: Nathan Bracken - 4@ n/a
No.20: Shane Warne - 0@0.00

Bowling
No.1: Brett Lee - 1282@53.41
No.2: Andy Bichel - 993@45.13
No.3: Glenn McGrath - 877@46.15
No.4: Brad Hogg - 876@35.04
No.5: Jason Gillespie - 517@47.00
No.6: Ian Harvey - 485@37.30
No.7: Darren Lehmann - 237@21.54
No.8: Brad Williams - 212@30.28
No.9: Nathan Bracken - 181@60.33
No.10: Andrew Symonds - 173@10.81
No.11: Shane Watson - 141@28.20
No.12: Shane Warne - 85@42.50
No.13: Nathan Hauritz - 47@15.66
No.14: Michael Clarke - 21@10.50
No.15: Damien Martyn - 21@7.00

In 2002 by my rankings, Ricky Ponting was both No. 1 in Test & ODI Batting. In 2002 Shane Warne was ranked the No.1 Test Bowler while Glenn McGrath was ranked the No.1 ODI Bowler.
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Old 29-10-2003, 02:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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So what do you think about my rankings? Do you think that they are good or bad?
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Old 29-10-2003, 02:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 29-10-2003, 03:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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look impressive but whats the formula, as there are enough geeks here to help you with any problems
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Old 29-10-2003, 03:04 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah looks good.

Welcome to the forums both of you!
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Old 29-10-2003, 03:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Before commenting, I should like to see the criteria you are using.
Obviously 'trips to the chemist' aren't involved because Warney hasn't any points.
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Old 29-10-2003, 05:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Before commenting, I should like to see the criteria you are using.
Obviously 'trips to the chemist' aren't involved because Warney hasn't any points.
The Warney jokes are gettin real old now , lets start on Brad Williams instead , he's got all the criteria , he's big , blonde & not all that bright.
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Old 29-10-2003, 05:58 AM   #8 (permalink)
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The Warney jokes are gettin real old now , lets start on Brad Williams instead , he's got all the criteria , he's big , blonde & not all that bright.
<quack> Warney is definitely 'old and busted' now - hence his 'setting the record straight' interview. Although, in Warney's case, hilarity is but a phone call or a weather forecast away.

At the moment, Rikki is 'teh new hotness', but Brad Williams could well come into the frame for ridicule alongside his namesakes GLA (Greatest-living Australian) Hogg and Cheaty.

Can he throw? What does Cameraman Joe think about him?
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Old 29-10-2003, 11:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the welcome Mr. Ponting.

My points allocation/criteria is a closely guarded secret.
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Old 29-10-2003, 12:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for the welcome Mr. Ponting.

My points allocation/criteria is a closely guarded secret.
Yeah its good see you here.

If it is a secret, who does know?
Do you?
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Old 29-10-2003, 12:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the welcome Mr. Ponting.

My points allocation/criteria is a closely guarded secret.
Fair comment - in which case, we can just look upon it as opinion.

For instance, consider the following bowlers...

Walsh
Warne
Muralitharan
Cork
McGrath
Marshall
Trueman
Gibbs
Clarke
Underwood

I too have applied a formula based upon their test records and come up with the following sequence :

Malcolm Marshall 114.72
Derek Underwood 111.79
Glenn McGrath 109.30
Shane Warne 108.15
Courtney Walsh 102.32
Rikki Clarke 101.18
Dominic Cork 101.05
Muttiah Muralitharan 99.98
Fred Trueman 95.66
Lance Gibbs 92.79

Amazing, eh? Rikki Clarke is ahead of Muttiah Muralitharan.

However, even when I tell you that the table is deternined from the age of their first test victim on the day they took their first wicket (in days, divided by 100 so it has decimal points and therefore looks as though a complex algorithm has been used and some mug might accept it), it's still as valid as yours. :P

Only joking. Welcome to Cricket Web
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Originally posted by Mr Ponting
If it is a secret, who does know?
Do you?


Only I know. For one it keeps people in suspense (and interested) wondering who is no.1 in my rankings etc.
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luckyeddie, In regards to your formula, you should of also (after dividing by 100) square root the numbers. Then you'll probablly get some long complicated decimal number :P

Nah, just kidding, thanks for the welcome.
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2003 Australian ODI Rankings (as of Australia vs. New Zealand, 3rd match of tri-series in Faridabad)

Batting
No.1: Ricky Ponting - 1437@68.42
No.2: Adam Gilchrist - 1313@52.52
No.3: Mathew Hayden - 1115@50.68
No.4: Damien Martyn - 1081@98.27
No.5: Andrew Symonds - 883@63.07
No.6: Darren Lehmann - 682@75.77
No.7: Michael Bevan - 645@58.63
No.8: Michael Clarke - 352@176.00
No.9: Brad Hogg - 333@37.00
No.10: Andy Bichel - 283@56.60
No.11: Jimmy Maher - 141@17.62
No.12: Ian Harvey - 104@14.85
No.13: Shane Watson - 59@59.00
No.14: Brett Lee - 58@7.25
No.15: Nathan Hauritz - 19@19.00
No.16: Brad Williams - 9@ n/a
No.17: Jason Gillespie - 8@ n/a
No.18: Glenn McGrath - 8@ n/a
No.19: Nathan Bracken - 4@ n/a
No.20: Shane Warne - 0@0.00

Bowling
No.1: Brett Lee - 1282@53.41
No.2: Andy Bichel - 1014@44.08
No.3: Glenn McGrath - 877@46.15
No.4: Brad Hogg - 876@35.04
No.5: Ian Harvey - 532@38.00
No.6: Jason Gillespie - 517@47.00
No.7: Brad Williams - 330@41.25
No.8: Nathan Bracken - 261@65.25
No.9: Darren Lehmann - 237@21.54
No.10: Andrew Symonds - 173@10.81
No.11: Shane Watson - 141@28.20
No.12: Shane Warne - 85@42.50
No.13: Nathan Hauritz - 47@15.66
No.14: Michael Clarke - 21@10.50
No.15: Damien Martyn - 21@7.00
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2003 Australian ODI Rankings (as of Australia vs. India, 4th match of tri-series in Mumbai)

Batting
No.1: Ricky Ponting - 1483@67.40
No.2: Adam Gilchrist - 1359@52.26
No.3: Damien Martyn - 1279@106.58
No.4: Mathew Hayden - 1115@48.47
No.5: Andrew Symonds - 929@61.93
No.6: Darren Lehmann - 682@75.77
No.7: Michael Bevan - 668@55.66
No.8: Michael Clarke - 356@118.66
No.9: Brad Hogg - 333@37.00
No.10: Andy Bichel - 287@47.83
No.11: Jimmy Maher - 141@17.62
No.12: Ian Harvey - 104@14.85
No.13: Shane Watson - 59@59.00
No.14: Brett Lee - 58@7.25
No.15: Nathan Hauritz - 19@19.00
No.16: Brad Williams - 9@ n/a
No.17: Jason Gillespie - 8@ n/a
No.18: Glenn McGrath - 8@ n/a
No.19: Nathan Bracken - 4@ n/a
No.20: Shane Warne - 0@0.00

Bowling
No.1: Brett Lee - 1282@53.41
No.2: Andy Bichel - 1035@43.12
No.3: Brad Hogg - 897@34.50
No.4: Glenn McGrath - 877@46.15
No.5: Ian Harvey - 532@38.00
No.6: Jason Gillespie - 517@47.00
No.7: Nathan Bracken - 396@79.20
No.8: Brad Williams - 330@36.66
No.9: Darren Lehmann - 237@21.54
No.10: Andrew Symonds - 173@10.17
No.11: Shane Watson - 141@28.20
No.12: Michael Clarke - 139@46.33
No.13: Shane Warne - 85@42.50
No.14: Nathan Hauritz - 47@15.66
No.15: Damien Martyn - 21@7.00
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