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    Originally posted by Ford_GTHO351
    2003 Australian Test Match Rankings (as of Australia vs. India 1st Test at the 'Gabba [Brisbane])

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    No.1: Mathew Hayden - 2232 points@159.42 points per innings
    No.2: Ricky Ponting - 1407@117.25
    No.3: Steve Waugh - 1283@160.37
    No.4: Adam Gilchrist - 1070@118.88
    No.5: Darren Lehmann - 1025@113.88
    No.6: Justin Langer - 1003@62.68
    No.7: Andy Bichel - 271@33.87
    No.8: Damien Martyn - 271@54.20
    No.9: Martin Love - 255@51.00
    No.10: Brett Lee - 107@15.28
    No.11: Simon Katich - 73@36.50
    No.12: Jason Gillespie - 66@16.50
    No.13: Brad Hogg - 22@11.00
    No.14: Stuart MacGill - 20@3.33
    No.15: Glenn McGrath - 13@13.00
    No.16: Brad Williams - 4@4.00
    No.17: Nathan Bracken - 4@ -

    Bowling
    No.1: Stuart MacGill - 1606@89.22
    No.2: Jason Gillespie - 1367@75.94
    No.3: Brett Lee - 1057@62.17
    No.4: Andy Bichel - 883@55.18
    No.5: Glenn McGrath - 394@49.25
    No.6: Simon Katich - 247@82.33
    No.7: Brad Hogg - 229@38.16
    No.8: Darren Lehmann - 156@22.28
    No.9: Brad Williams - 128@64.00
    No.10: Nathan Bracken - 68@34.00
    No.11: Damien Martyn - 34@11.33
    No.12: Steve Waugh - 21@1.90
    No.13: Ricky Ponting - 0@0.00
    You might want to check Steve Waugh's batting points average.
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    Originally posted by mavric41
    You might want to check Steve Waugh's batting points average.
    No this is not a mistake. Steve Waugh does average 160.37 points per test innings in 2003.
    This is a combination of good form and alot of not outs.



    You forgot XXXX beer as Queenslands biggest city :P

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    Originally posted by Ford_GTHO351
    No this is not a mistake. Steve Waugh does average 160.37 points per test innings in 2003.
    This is a combination of good form and alot of not outs.



    You forgot XXXX beer as Queenslands biggest city :P
    I thought that would have put him at No.1 then.

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    Originally posted by mavric41
    I thought that would have put him at No.1 then.
    The player with the most points accumulated is No.1, the average is just meerly an average.


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    Mathew Hayden has had a cracker 2003 in the Test arena. Hayden is by a country mile the No.1 Australian Test batsman for 2003.

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    I think you should rank them on points average, but filter out players who have played less than 10 ODI matches, and 5 Test matches, so you can't have someone being top just because of 1 good match
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    Originally posted by halsey
    I think you should rank them on points average, but filter out players who have played less than 10 ODI matches, and 5 Test matches, so you can't have someone being top just because of 1 good match
    I don't think that averages should decide who is the best player. You have too many variables in averages, particuarly with batting averages with not outs, batting order etc. If it was calculated on averages you could have for example one player (who has met your criteria of 10 ODI matches, and 5 Test matches) scoring 550 points from 10 innings with zero not outs, therefore averaging 55 pts. Then compared with a player who may for example have scored 275 points from 10 innings with 6 not outs, therefore averaging 68.75.

    So I think it is not fair or accurate to rank on averages. Averages are good to compare players performances, but not to solely use the average for an ranking.

    The best players are the ones who are consistent and ones who also can produce that big performance from time to time.

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    I didn't mean batting average. I meant your points average that you have created with your secret formula. It is very accurate

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    From his last post, I think he is saying that his point average is directly linked to runs scored and not outs anyway (not too surprising that :duh: ) so they have an affect anyway. Plus he used points in his example as well!

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    Yes I was indicating points scored, not runs scored.

    Like PY said my points average is directly linked to runs scored and not outs.

    Though I allocate points (batting wise) not just according to the number of runs scored but factors like strike rates, half century/century achieved, not outs etc. and just like a proper batting average (runs scored), my points average is influenced by not outs.

    My formula (points allocation) is not perfect, like all rankings. Though I think it is fairly accurate.

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    How about doing this for outher nations

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    Originally posted by jamee999
    How about doing this for outher nations

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    I would like to be able to do this for other nations, but it would be too time consuming as I'm pretty busy alot of the time. So since I live in Australia & support Australia, I figured I'll just do rankings for Australian cricketers.

    These rankings are probably most relevant to us Aussies, but maybe people (like you) from other countries would also like to see who in particular in a team is doing well

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    2003 Australian Test Match Rankings (as of Australia vs. India 2nd Test at the the Adelaide Oval

    Batting
    No.1: Mathew Hayden - 2250 points@140.62 points per innings
    No.2: Ricky Ponting - 1940@138.57
    No.3: Steve Waugh - 1329@132.90
    No.4: Adam Gilchrist - 1154@104.90
    No.5: Justin Langer - 1099@61.05
    No.6: Darren Lehmann - 1025@113.88
    No.7: Damien Martyn - 340@48.57
    No.8: Andy Bichel - 290@29.00
    No.9: Martin Love - 255@51.00
    No.10: Simon Katich - 189@47.25
    No.11: Jason Gillespie - 116@23.20
    No.12: Brett Lee - 107@15.28
    No.13: Stuart MacGill - 24@3.00
    No.14: Brad Hogg - 22@11.00
    No.15: Glenn McGrath - 13@13.00
    No.16: Brad Williams - 8@4.00
    No.17: Nathan Bracken - 4@ -

    Bowling
    No.1: Stuart MacGill - 1717@85.85
    No.2: Jason Gillespie - 1460@73.00
    No.3: Brett Lee - 1057@62.17
    No.4: Andy Bichel - 1039@57.72
    No.5: Glenn McGrath - 394@49.25
    No.6: Simon Katich - 341@68.20
    No.7: Brad Hogg - 229@38.16
    No.8: Brad Williams - 196@49.00
    No.9: Darren Lehmann - 156@22.28
    No.10: Nathan Bracken - 68@34.00
    No.11: Damien Martyn - 34@11.33
    No.12: Steve Waugh - 21@1.61
    No.13: Ricky Ponting - 0@0.00

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    Final 2003 Australian Test Match Rankings (as of Australia vs. India 3rd Test at the the MCG)

    Batting
    No.1: Mathew Hayden - 2607 points@153.35 points per innings
    No.2: Ricky Ponting - 2556@170.40
    No.3: Steve Waugh - 1344@122.18
    No.4: Adam Gilchrist - 1163@96.91
    No.5: Justin Langer - 1112@55.60
    No.6: Darren Lehmann - 1025@113.88
    No.7: Damien Martyn - 363@45.37
    No.8: Andy Bichel - 290@29.00
    No.9: Martin Love - 255@51.00
    No.10: Simon Katich - 204@40.80
    No.11: Jason Gillespie - 116@23.20
    No.12: Brett Lee - 116@14.50
    No.13: Stuart MacGill - 24@2.66
    No.14: Brad Hogg - 22@11.00
    No.15: Brad Williams - 17@8.50
    No.16: Glenn McGrath - 13@13.00
    No.17: Nathan Bracken - 8@8.00

    Bowling
    No.1: Stuart MacGill - 1861@84.59
    No.2: Jason Gillespie - 1460@73.00
    No.3: Brett Lee - 1151@60.57
    No.4: Andy Bichel - 1039@57.72
    No.5: Glenn McGrath - 394@49.25
    No.6: Brad Williams - 369@61.50
    No.7: Simon Katich - 362@51.71
    No.8: Brad Hogg - 229@38.16
    No.9: Nathan Bracken - 187@46.75
    No.10: Darren Lehmann - 156@22.28
    No.11: Steve Waugh - 42@3.00
    No.12: Damien Martyn - 34@11.33
    No.13: Ricky Ponting - 0@0.00

    2003 Test Batting Report

    Mathew Hayden had just edged out Ricky Ponting to be Australia's No.1 Test Batsman for 2003. Both these players have had a superb year in the Test arena. Hayden with 380 against Zimbabwe, a world record. Also Ponting (along with his superb 2003 ODI form) scored three double centuries with 206 vs. the West Indies, 242 vs. India & 257 again vs. India.
    Ponting was No.1 (after the 1st innings against India at the MCG where he scored 257) until the last Australian test innings of 2003 (2nd innings vs. India at the MCG). Had Hayden not scored a half century (53*), Ricky Ponting would of been Australia's No.1 Test Batsman for 2003. Thats how close it was in the end. Though Hayden and Ponting were in a class of their own as the No.3 Australian Test Batsman for 2003 (Steve Waugh) only acumulated 1344 points, over 1000 points behind Hayden and Ponting :O
    Jason Gillespie finished ahead of Brett Lee due to Gillespie obtaining a higher score during Australia's Tests for 2003 (48* to Lee's 46) .

    2003 Test Bowling Report

    Stuart MacGill dominated 2003, beating Jason Gillespie by 401 points. MacGill did not waste his opportunity being in the team (due to Warne's suspension) becoming Australia's leading wicket taker in Tests for 2003.
    A good performance from Simon Katich. In his few Tests back, he managed an excellent (for a part timer) 362 points@51.71 from the seven innings he bowled in.

    2003 Australian No.1's

    Test Batting: Mathew Hayden
    Test Bowling: Stuart MacGill
    ODI Batting: Ricky Ponting
    ODI Bowling: Brett Lee

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    Originally posted by Ford_GTHO351
    A good performance from Simon Katich. In his few Tests back, he managed an excellent (for a part timer) 362 points@51.71 from the seven innings he bowled in.
    He is probably the best part time bowler in the world. But I also remember everyone saying that about Bevan when he took his 10 wickets against the West Indies, and where is he now? I haven't seen him bowl in ages. Anyone know what happened to him? I used to really rate him.

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