Regarding Fred Trueman

[JBMAC]

I put Trueman among 5 best pace bowlers of all time.

Go with a top 12 maybe ten BUT not 5

 

[ankitj]

Go with a top 12 maybe ten BUT not 5

I have of course not seen him, but only read about him and looked at his stats Based on that I put him in top 5 after Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose and McGrath

EDIT: Apparently the cricinfo experts rate him very highly too. He found a place in their second all time XI, ahead of many other greats.

 

[smash84]

I have of course not seen him, but only read about him and looked at his stats Based on that I put him in top 5 after Marshall, Hadlee, Ambrose and McGrath

EDIT: Apparently the cricinfo experts rate him very highly too. He found a place in their second all time XI, ahead of many other greats.

You put him ahead of the likes of Lillee, Imran, and Donald?

 

[Himannv]

Lots of Trueman bashing going on around here. Isn't he supposed to be the greatest ever fast bowler to ever tie his shoelaces? Or something to that effect at least?

 

[fredfertang]

Lots of Trueman bashing going on around here. Isn't he supposed to be the greatest ever fast bowler to ever tie his shoelaces? Or something to that effect at least?

To use his own words "t' greatest bloody fast bowler who ever drew breath"

 

[Himannv]

To use his own words "t' greatest bloody fast bowler who ever drew breath"

Thats the one.

I'm not sure where I've read it but it seemed that Trueman's way of training was to eat some breakfast, bowl full tilt until lunch. Have a shower and his meal and bowl full tilt again till tea. Have a breather and a cup of tea and then bowl full tilt again until the sun went down.

 

[smash84]

Himan where do you read your daily dose of crap?

 

[Himannv]

What can I do mate, I see your posts all over.

 

[smash84]

 

[wpdavid]

Thats the one.

I'm not sure where I've read it but it seemed that Trueman's way of training was to eat some breakfast, bowl full tilt until lunch. Have a shower and his meal and bowl full tilt again till tea. Have a breather and a cup of tea and then bowl full tilt again until the sun went down.

Not so - I'm pretty sure he usually bowled out sides before lunch.

 

[ankitj]

You put him ahead of the likes of Lillee, Imran, and Donald?

By an inch. They are all quite close to each other.

 

[fredfertang]

A bloody legend.

Well not entirely, though as bowlers I don't think you can separate 'em with a fag paper - but if the question is who is the greater I accept it has to be FST, due to his much underrated (not by himself, obv) ability with the willow, the fact that he was a very fine close catcher, and his ability to get batsmen out by sheer force of personality

 

[Howe_zat]

Well not entirely, though as bowlers I don't think you can separate 'em with a fag paper - but if the question is who is the greater I accept it has to be FST, due to his much underrated (not by himself, obv) ability with the willow, the fact that he was a very fine close catcher, and his ability to get batsmen out by sheer force of personality

Nice one fred.

 

[Jono]

I was wondering why Fred Trueman isn't really rated that highly at cricinfo given that the stats brigade is quite strong here at CW.

On a more serious note the guy has a fantastic record and unfortunately a lot of us couldn't see him bowl and I wonder why his name doesn't get thrown around too often in the discussion of best fast bowlers here on CW

Bowling records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

He is though.

 

[smash84]

I meant CW.

I don't think that he is rated quite as highly here