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Thread: Is Ewen Chatfield a better bowler than Chris Cairns? (tru story)

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    Is Ewen Chatfield a better bowler than Chris Cairns? (tru story)

    Athlai thinks Ewen Chatfield is a better bowler than Chris Cairns. I call troll, but he wants to put it to CW so since I'm nice and democratic...

    His main argument seems to be along FC lines. Chatfield's FC record is freakish, and he averages 19 in NZ. Athlai will probably say his bit.

    Chatfield was a gun and is probably underappreciated when compared to his bowling partner, but I don't think he is better than Cairns.

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    Chatfield's pretty good IMO. Cairns is marginally a better bowler though.
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    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

    feasted alot

    exaggerating abit i guess
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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    So did Chatfield

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    Had to vote no, though Ewen gets bonus points for a seriously ugly 'tache.
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    First class records:
    587 @ 22.87 for Chats
    647 @ 28.31 for Cairns

    Please note that this exercise is also to see who is the best player in NZ as well, against NZers too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    First class records:
    487 @ 22.87 for Chats
    647 @ 28.31 for Cairns

    Please note that this exercise is also to see who is the best player in NZ as well, against NZers too.
    /goalpostshifting ftw

    You clearly said Chats was the better bowler, not the better bowler in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centurymaker View Post
    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/eng...s;type=bowling

    feasted alot

    exaggerating abit i guess
    No, just no. Zinzan12 once posted that at the peak of his powers (1997-2002?), Cairns averaged something like 40 with the bat and 26 with the ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    /goalpostshifting ftw

    You clearly said Chats was the better bowler, not the better bowler in NZ.
    I said "It could be argued" and we were talking about an ATG NZ FC draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    No, just no. Zinzan12 once posted that at the peak of his powers (1997-2002?), Cairns averaged something like 40 with the bat and 26 with the ball.
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    ODI or Test?

    Chatfield was comfortably the better ODI bowler and Cairns the better test bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    First class records:
    487 @ 22.87 for Chats
    647 @ 28.31 for Cairns

    Please note that this exercise is also to see who is the best player in NZ as well, against NZers too.
    Chatfield played 3-day cricket when things like this happened. ("150 up, let's declare eh?")

    Meanwhile a not inconsiderable portion of Cairns' FC record is in England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
    Chatfield played 3-day cricket when things like this happened. ("150 up, let's declare eh?")

    Meanwhile a not inconsiderable portion of Cairns' FC record is in England.
    Not really sure how matches like that would necessarily devalue the wickets he took. If anything it would present more matches where you don't get a shot at 20 wickets because of the greater likelihood of draws/declarations.

    Cairns FC wickets in NZ domestic cricket:
    120 @ 24.75

    Chats:
    403 @ 18.68

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