***Official*** Australia in South Africa - Page 93

ganeshran · 24-10-2011, 04:41 AM

Great comeback by SA

howardj · 27-10-2011, 12:19 AM

Any reason why this ODI series is so protracted?

They could fitted in another Test

uvelocity · 27-10-2011, 12:29 AM

lunar calendar

Spikey · 27-10-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by howardj

Any reason why this ODI series is so protracted?

They could fitted in another Test

they're protesting silly scheduling practices by carrying out the silliest schedule of them all

It hasn't worked because only Peter Roebuck finds the schedule silly.

Ruckus · 27-10-2011, 03:54 AM

What do people reckon should be our bowling line up for the tests? Johnson, Siddle, Harris, Copeland, Cummins, Lyon, Beer are the possible selections.

The question is do we go with four pacemen or 3 and a spinner? The first test is at Newlands, so it can offer a bit for everyone. Four pacemen seems a bit excessive in any conditions because of Watson, but should we really be bowling him much at the moment given his recent fitness concerns? IMO Watson should be forced to concentrate on his batting this tour, because with their attack it will be a hell of a challenge and we can't really afford either to lose him due to injury, or let his batting form be compromised because of having to bowl too much.

Preferably I'd go with Harris (simply our best bowler), Johnson (hard to leave him out given how he last performed in these conditions), Copeland (needs to be there to provide stability, and also I reckon he could be a real threat if the conditions are favourable) and Lyon (>Beer).

If Cummins has to debut, I really hope we can avoid Harris, Johnson, Cummins, Lyon (could either be devastatingly good, or horrendously inconsistent, a risk I wouldn't take). Would probably prefer, Harris, Johnson, Cummins, Copeland, but this side really lacks part-time spin options and given it's Newlands that could be a bit of a problem.

GingerFurball · 27-10-2011, 03:57 AM

No reason why the attack which played in Sri Lanka shouldn't play this series.

Noble One · 27-10-2011, 04:01 AM

Unchanged bowling lineup.

Key issue has been the lack of stability in our bowling attack. Why change it after performing well as a unit in Sri Lanka?

Harris for Sids. Pre injury lineup I mean.

Ruckus · 27-10-2011, 04:01 AM

Yeah my thoughts too, but I reckon the most likely line up at this stage is Harris, Johnson, Cummins and Lyon. If Cummins bombs again in the last ODI that could raise some concerns though if they are actually thinking about going in to the tests with that line-up. Is there a practice match before the first test as well? Could also have a strong bearing on the side...

Spikey · 27-10-2011, 04:15 AM

Harris, Copeland, MJ and Lyon. Absolutely no doubts that's the attack to send out.

what line-up we send out for the tour match will be interesting though. and of course i'm worried we'll indeed play cummins for copeland

Outswinger@Pace · 27-10-2011, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DeusEx

Yeah my thoughts too, but I reckon the most likely line up at this stage is Harris, Johnson, Cummins and Lyon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey

Harris, Copeland, MJ and Lyon. Absolutely no doubts that's the attack to send out.

Really?

Spikey · 27-10-2011, 04:24 AM

According to my calender he's due for the 2nd match

Ideally I would be able to name Bollinger in the 3rd spot but....

GingerFurball · 27-10-2011, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Outswinger@Pace

Really?

Great record in South Africa, bowling with bowlers who'll actually compliment him. If he's firing, the ultimate shock weapon.

Outswinger@Pace · 27-10-2011, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GingerFurball

Great record in South Africa, bowling with bowlers who'll actually compliment him. If he's firing, the ultimate shock weapon.

Yeah, sorta guessed that'd be the case. But tbf, it's more the man's mental state than form or a liking for certain grounds. Having said that, genuine pace is always a weapon in SA and he could be a fair punt.

Noble One · 27-10-2011, 04:36 AM

Johnson was impressive in his prior FC game for Western Australia.

We all know how bipolar he can be, but I'd take my chances with an in-form Johnson.

Ruckus · 27-10-2011, 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spikey

Harris, Copeland, MJ and Lyon. Absolutely no doubts that's the attack to send out.

what line-up we send out for the tour match will be interesting though. and of course i'm worried we'll indeed play cummins for copeland

Do you know when the tour match is? Can't see it anywhere on the schedule...

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Originally Posted by Outswinger@Pace

Yeah, sorta guessed that'd be the case. But tbf, it's more the man's mental state than form or a liking for certain grounds. Having said that, genuine pace is always a weapon in SA and he could be a fair punt.

I reckon the ground drastically influences Johnson's mental state though. He is by and large a confidence bowler, and I think his previous experiences in SA will bring the best out of him. Also has been generating a bit of swing in the ODI's too, which can only be a good thing.

27-10-2011, 12:19 AM	#1382 (permalink)
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Noble One International Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 4,112	Unchanged bowling lineup. Key issue has been the lack of stability in our bowling attack. Why change it after performing well as a unit in Sri Lanka? Harris for Sids. Pre injury lineup I mean. Last edited by Noble One; 27-10-2011 at 04:02 AM.

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Ruckus International Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oz Posts: 5,760	Yeah my thoughts too, but I reckon the most likely line up at this stage is Harris, Johnson, Cummins and Lyon. If Cummins bombs again in the last ODI that could raise some concerns though if they are actually thinking about going in to the tests with that line-up. Is there a practice match before the first test as well? Could also have a strong bearing on the side... Last edited by Ruckus; 27-10-2011 at 04:03 AM.

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Ruckus International Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Oz Posts: 5,760	What do people reckon should be our bowling line up for the tests? Johnson, Siddle, Harris, Copeland, Cummins, Lyon, Beer are the possible selections. The question is do we go with four pacemen or 3 and a spinner? The first test is at Newlands, so it can offer a bit for everyone. Four pacemen seems a bit excessive in any conditions because of Watson, but should we really be bowling him much at the moment given his recent fitness concerns? IMO Watson should be forced to concentrate on his batting this tour, because with their attack it will be a hell of a challenge and we can't really afford either to lose him due to injury, or let his batting form be compromised because of having to bowl too much. Preferably I'd go with Harris (simply our best bowler), Johnson (hard to leave him out given how he last performed in these conditions), Copeland (needs to be there to provide stability, and also I reckon he could be a real threat if the conditions are favourable) and Lyon (>Beer). If Cummins has to debut, I really hope we can avoid Harris, Johnson, Cummins, Lyon (could either be devastatingly good, or horrendously inconsistent, a risk I wouldn't take). Would probably prefer, Harris, Johnson, Cummins, Copeland, but this side really lacks part-time spin options and given it's Newlands that could be a bit of a problem.

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Spikey Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: All Glory To The Nev Posts: 23,980	Harris, Copeland, MJ and Lyon. Absolutely no doubts that's the attack to send out. what line-up we send out for the tour match will be interesting though. and of course i'm worried we'll indeed play cummins for copeland

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Spikey Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: All Glory To The Nev Posts: 23,980	According to my calender he's due for the 2nd match Ideally I would be able to name Bollinger in the 3rd spot but....

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