***Official*** DRS discussion thread - Page 4

Athlai · 07-12-2010, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pasag

Would have been pretty much the greatest innings of all time. Would have won the match, drawn the series. Don't think many knocks would have come close had he not been sawed off.

Was so gun.

Midwinter · 07-12-2010, 04:19 AM

Against.
Its a game, take the good with the bad and respect the umpire.

The current sytem is simply a ploy for TV to add drama for people who aren't interested in cricket

If it is going to be used, it should be used every single time. To limit its use is a travesty, simply ridiculous.
It gives perference to some batsmen over others i fteh referrals have been used by earlier batsmen. It will influence players averages depending on their position in the batting order.

What will be the long term implications ?

Will the batsman getting reprieved lead to higher scoring games and possibly more draws ?
Will umpires give more not out decisions because they won't want to be shown up as being wrong ?
What will happen when an umpire is shown to be regularly wrong on lineball decisions ?

Any thoughts on these possibilities, or any others you can think of ?

Shri · 07-12-2010, 04:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcuss

Making a batsman restart his innings in a completely different match situation isn't all that fair.
What happens if it was the number 11 as well?

In case it is the no.11, they should wait. Simple as that.

weldone · 07-12-2010, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weed wizard

As far as BCCI is concerned, they sure are the dumbest board in the city.

Which city?

andyc · 07-12-2010, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midwinter

Against.
Its a game, take the good with the bad and respect the umpire.

The current sytem is simply a ploy for TV to add drama for people who aren't interested in cricket

If it is going to be used, it should be used every single time. To limit its use is a travesty, simply ridiculous.
It gives perference to some batsmen over others i fteh referrals have been used by earlier batsmen. It will influence players averages depending on their position in the batting order.

What will be the long term implications ?

Will the batsman getting reprieved lead to higher scoring games and possibly more draws ?
Will umpires give more not out decisions because they won't want to be shown up as being wrong ?
What will happen when an umpire is shown to be regularly wrong on lineball decisions ?

Any thoughts on these possibilities, or any others you can think of ?

It's not just batsmen that can use it, though. The bowling team gets it as well...

slugger · 07-12-2010, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Midwinter

Against.

Will the batsman getting reprieved lead to higher scoring games and possibly more draws ?
Will umpires give more not out decisions because they won't want to be shown up as being wrong ?
What will happen when an umpire is shown to be regularly wrong on lineball decisions ?

Any thoughts on these possibilities, or any others you can think of ?

You are asking questions that could also apply to a non UDRS system,

what if a batsmen is not given out to an obvious "out" when on ten and goes on to score a century. its pointess exercise. the importance the UDRS will bring to a game is limit the mistakes/ blunders etc.

lets remove as mmuch doubt as possible... is nt strange that game has an option of doubt... in its basic decision structure.. "when in doubt favour the batsmen"

Blaze 18 · 07-12-2010, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andyc

It's not just batsmen that can use it, though. The bowling team gets it as well...

The bowlers may actually benefit more from the referral system than batsmen.

weldone · 07-12-2010, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaze 18

The bowlers may actually benefit more from the referral system than batsmen.

I shall put it in another way - if referral system isn't used, batsmen are generally benefitted more than the bowlers.

Daemon · 07-12-2010, 05:25 AM

It's been pretty good in the Ashes so far

vic_orthdox · 07-12-2010, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shri

**** 'em. Its not about what those sissies like or dislike, its all about what a fair decision means.

It's not a fair decision if the batsman has to restart their innings, and the match can still change course because of a bad decision.

Shri · 07-12-2010, 06:45 AM

Restarting an innings > Being unfairly given out with no chance to make amends.

vic_orthdox · 07-12-2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shri

Restarting an innings > Being unfairly given out with no chance to make amends.

But worse than the current system.

Shri · 07-12-2010, 06:48 AM

How so?

Marcuss · 07-12-2010, 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shri

How so?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

It's not a fair decision if the batsman has to restart their innings, and the match can still change course because of a bad decision.

..........

Shri · 07-12-2010, 06:54 AM

Well agree to disagree then. I feel that being able to resume an innings at a later stage is better than a player not having any impact in the game at all after a bad call.

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07-12-2010, 04:19 AM	#47 (permalink)
Midwinter U19 12th Man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 259	Against. Its a game, take the good with the bad and respect the umpire. The current sytem is simply a ploy for TV to add drama for people who aren't interested in cricket If it is going to be used, it should be used every single time. To limit its use is a travesty, simply ridiculous. It gives perference to some batsmen over others i fteh referrals have been used by earlier batsmen. It will influence players averages depending on their position in the batting order. What will be the long term implications ? Will the batsman getting reprieved lead to higher scoring games and possibly more draws ? Will umpires give more not out decisions because they won't want to be shown up as being wrong ? What will happen when an umpire is shown to be regularly wrong on lineball decisions ? Any thoughts on these possibilities, or any others you can think of ?

07-12-2010, 05:25 AM	#54 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,742	It's been pretty good in the Ashes so far

07-12-2010, 06:45 AM	#56 (permalink)
Shri Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,937	Restarting an innings > Being unfairly given out with no chance to make amends.

07-12-2010, 06:48 AM	#58 (permalink)
Shri Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,937	How so?

07-12-2010, 06:54 AM	#60 (permalink)
Shri Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,937	Well agree to disagree then. I feel that being able to resume an innings at a later stage is better than a player not having any impact in the game at all after a bad call.

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