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    If the Umpire gives the batsman out then his decision should be reviewed by the Third Umpire, and every facet of the dismissal taken into consideration during the review. If both the Umpire and Third Umpire agree with eachother then the batsman is out, no question. In dismissals that are difficult to adjudicate then the Third Umpire should have the 'final say' after consultation with the field Umpire.

    If an appeal is rejected by the Umpire then the bowling team should be allowed 2 challenges per batsman, per innings. Obviously there needs to be some limit otherwise the bowler will be challenging everything.

    In a nutshell, it is the Third Umpire who gives each batsman out and takes responsibility, not the field Umpire.

    The wishy-washy half-baked system currently in place is not working because too many 'howlers' are still getting through. Hence the use of technology should be more frequent, and more freely available to players and umpires alike.
    Last edited by watson; 21-07-2013 at 06:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    If the Umpire gives the batsman out then his decision should be reviewed by the third Umpire, and every facet of the dismissal taken into consideration during the review - end of story.

    If an appeal is rejected by the Umpire then the bowling team should be allowed 2 challenges per batsman, per innings. Obviously there needs to be some limit otherwise the bowler will be challenging everything.

    The wishy-washy half-baked system currently in place is not working because too many 'howlers' are still getting through. Hence the use of technology should be more frequent, and more freely available to players and umpires alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wellAlbidarned View Post
    Enjoy your 5 minutes of cricket per day
    Not every dismissal is complicated. If a batsman gets clean-bowled then the Third Umpire only has to check the bowlers front-foot - 30 seconds tops. The same goes for a straightforward catch in the outfield, or an edge to the second/third/fourth slip or gully. So on average we are looking at about 2 minutes per dismissal. On a busy day where the batting team has collapsed to be all out then that's roughly 22 minutes in total. On a day where few batsman get out then the time lost will be less than 10 minutes.

    As far as the bowler challenging the Umpires Not-Out decision, well that depends on how many wickets fall during the day. A smart Captain will also be judicious with his challenging because he only has 2 per batsman. So again, I can't see this being used more than 5-6 times per day on average - about 12 minutes in total.

    I think that there will be significantly more than '5 minutes of cricket per day'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooky Monster View Post
    Snocko needs to be included, why does it take so long for snicko to work anyway?, in this age surely its not hard to have it give an instant result.
    Video and audio streams are separate and there's ambient noise to remove from the audio via some signal processing (patented algorithms, unfortunately). The processed signal then needs to be manually lined-up with the video replay video. All of this takes time to do, assuming everything goes smooth as silk, at least a couple of minutes before the 3rd ump even gets a look at it. The potential problems are fairly obvious too; there's no guarantee that the signal processing will actually identify the right noise as being a nick and there's the possibility of the bloke lining things up making a mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Video and audio streams are separate and there's ambient noise to remove from the audio via some signal processing (patented algorithms, unfortunately). The processed signal then needs to be manually lined-up with the video replay video. All of this takes time to do, assuming everything goes smooth as silk, at least a couple of minutes before the 3rd ump even gets a look at it. The potential problems are fairly obvious too; there's no guarantee that the signal processing will actually identify the right noise as being a nick and there's the possibility of the bloke lining things up making a mistake.
    Sky have managed to get some snickos on screen for us viewers very quickly, which does give me hope that having it available to the 3rd umpire won't be too far off.

    It'll need some education classes for commentators though, Willis was claiming that Agar's snicko proved he didn't hit it because the ball had passed the bat - clearly not understanding frame rates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watson View Post
    If the Umpire gives the batsman out then his decision should be reviewed by the Third Umpire, and every facet of the dismissal taken into consideration during the review. If both the Umpire and Third Umpire agree with eachother then the batsman is out, no question. In dismissals that are difficult to adjudicate then the Third Umpire should have the 'final say' after consultation with the field Umpire.

    If an appeal is rejected by the Umpire then the bowling team should be allowed 2 challenges per batsman, per innings. Obviously there needs to be some limit otherwise the bowler will be challenging everything.

    In a nutshell, it is the Third Umpire who gives each batsman out and takes responsibility, not the field Umpire.

    The wishy-washy half-baked system currently in place is not working because too many 'howlers' are still getting through. Hence the use of technology should be more frequent, and more freely available to players and umpires alike.
    This would make the slow paced game snail-paced.

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    Marred Ashes Tests Leave India Feeling Vindicated On DRS

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    So apparently his stance is he's all for technology but he wants it in the hands of the umpires...that's not what I recall them saying a couple of years ago. iirc they didn't like it because they had issues with the accuracy of the technology itself.

    Love his **** up of "**** hits the roof" though. Dumb ****.

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    I think they should leave it in the hands of the umpire for one test. When they get 45 overs in over five days because the umpire refers every appeal like they do now with run outs, the idea will get shot down very quickly.

    In the NFL, you get coach review. Might be worth it to allow someone in the coaching staff use the two challenges though - allow for the challenge to occur as long as the batsman hasn't left the ground - that should be enough time for at least one replay.


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    I totally accept DRS but it does take some enjoyment out of test cricket. I can never just celebrate a wicket anymore. I'm always waiting for it to be checked for a no-ball, or an appeal to the review system. Basically that moment of pure joy when you see or hear (via radio) the raised finger is gone. All a bit depressing really.
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    The NFL automaticalls reviews all scoring plays. Automatically review all dismissals by the 3rd umpire, only over turning the howlers. Fielding team gets two reviews for not outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Marred Ashes Tests Leave India Feeling Vindicated On DRS

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    ****, i should be a professional third umpire. would do a fantastic job.

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    ICC news : India in discussions over DRS compromise | Cricket News | Global | ESPN Cricinfo

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