Can Dale Steyn become the fastest bowler to 300 Test wickets? - Page 2

Ikki · 19-09-2011, 09:19 AM

Well, it's still a great record but it's far from Bradmanesque, or even much better than his own overall career figures.

Daemon · 19-09-2011, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sean

Ha ha, Murali went from 300 to 700 in 55 Tests.

That's ****ing ridiculous.

Wow.

Z-Man · 19-09-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Sean

Ha ha, Murali went from 300 to 700 in 55 Tests.

That's ****ing ridiculous.

OMGWTF?
Unbelievable!. Why isnt this a well known stat?

Daemon · 19-09-2011, 09:40 AM

Because when you bring up Murali anywhere outside of CW, people just brush everything off as him being a chucker.

SeamUp · 19-09-2011, 09:50 AM

Its not beyond the realms of possibility. But will be quite impressive if he pulls it off.

South Africa's next 8 tests are...

2 at home v Australia: Cape Town, Joburg

3 at home v Sri Lanka: Centurion, Durban & Cape Town

3 away v New Zealand: University Oval in Dunedin, Hamilton's Seddon Park & Basin Reserve in Wellington.

The ninth test will be in England and I think the venues for the ONLY 3 tests are The Oval, Lord's and Headingley.

8ankitj · 19-09-2011, 09:52 AM

Also, in an eleven year period from start of 98 to end of 08, Murali in 90 Tests took 631 wickets @ 19.94 at 7 wpm. Beat that! In that period he was performing at McGrath/Ambrose level despite being a spinner and being a lone warrior. Whichever way you look at it, how much ever you discount for record in SL and against B/Z, it's still beyond insane. He is one of those guys whose achievements get taken for granted, he's just expected to be taking 6-7 wickets a match.

Sanz · 19-09-2011, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

Because when you bring up Murali anywhere outside of CW, people just brush everything off as him being a chucker.

No they don't.

Ikki · 19-09-2011, 09:57 AM

Well when you discount B/Z he is made to look like other ATGs, but one who happened to bowl a ****load of overs and took lots of wickets. People overlook him because he tended to take a lot of wickets when the match was not so much in the balance; after the batsmen had already had their effect on the game. Otherwise, someone who took almost 7 wickets a game and who would strike early would not be overlooked by any account. The comparison with the Tendulkar double tonne doesn't make sense.

Back to the thread: one has to ask when people are going to seriously talk about Steyn as the greatest pacer, if not bowler, of all time. He's already played 46 Tests. His average and SR for even this era is already incredible.

Daemon · 19-09-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanz

No they don't.

That was an exaggeration obviously. But you do see that argument used loads of times, unless you're in the company of learned fans.

GotSpin · 19-09-2011, 10:13 AM

You should really stop chucking those generalisations around

Daemon · 19-09-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GotSpin

You should really stop chucking those generalisations around

Nah, I love throwing wild accusations about

Sanz · 19-09-2011, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

That was an exaggeration obviously. But you do see that argument used loads of times, unless you're in the company of learned fans.

There is no argument. It was settled way back, ages ago. Those who still want to call him a chucker, would have found another excuse to discredit Murali's achievements and in fact many of them still do .

salman85 · 19-09-2011, 11:03 AM

I always thought Waqar was the fastest to get 400 wickets.

8ankitj · 19-09-2011, 11:07 AM

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I always thought Waqar was the fastest to get 400 wickets.

MW1304 · 19-09-2011, 11:24 AM

19-09-2011, 09:19 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ikki International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Death Queen Island Posts: 12,032	Well, it's still a great record but it's far from Bradmanesque, or even much better than his own overall career figures. __________________ I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh [Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran [Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever. And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara

19-09-2011, 09:52 AM	#21 (permalink)
8ankitj International Captain Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Hyderabad India Posts: 5,148	Also, in an eleven year period from start of 98 to end of 08, Murali in 90 Tests took 631 wickets @ 19.94 at 7 wpm. Beat that! In that period he was performing at McGrath/Ambrose level despite being a spinner and being a lone warrior. Whichever way you look at it, how much ever you discount for record in SL and against B/Z, it's still beyond insane. He is one of those guys whose achievements get taken for granted, he's just expected to be taking 6-7 wickets a match. Last edited by 8ankitj; 19-09-2011 at 09:55 AM.

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Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,736	Because when you bring up Murali anywhere outside of CW, people just brush everything off as him being a chucker.

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SeamUp State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Cape Town Posts: 1,242	Its not beyond the realms of possibility. But will be quite impressive if he pulls it off. South Africa's next 8 tests are... 2 at home v Australia: Cape Town, Joburg 3 at home v Sri Lanka: Centurion, Durban & Cape Town 3 away v New Zealand: University Oval in Dunedin, Hamilton's Seddon Park & Basin Reserve in Wellington. The ninth test will be in England and I think the venues for the ONLY 3 tests are The Oval, Lord's and Headingley.

19-09-2011, 09:57 AM	#23 (permalink)
Ikki International Coach Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Death Queen Island Posts: 12,032	Well when you discount B/Z he is made to look like other ATGs, but one who happened to bowl a ****load of overs and took lots of wickets. People overlook him because he tended to take a lot of wickets when the match was not so much in the balance; after the batsmen had already had their effect on the game. Otherwise, someone who took almost 7 wickets a game and who would strike early would not be overlooked by any account. The comparison with the Tendulkar double tonne doesn't make sense. Back to the thread: one has to ask when people are going to seriously talk about Steyn as the greatest pacer, if not bowler, of all time. He's already played 46 Tests. His average and SR for even this era is already incredible.

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salman85 State Captain Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Lahore,Pakistan Posts: 1,926	I always thought Waqar was the fastest to get 400 wickets.

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