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    Indeed. Only really got going in his 51st Test TBH.
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    As for the question posed, I’d love to Steyn get the mark but I can’t quite see it – DKL hit 300 at the end of a stunning run that yielded 75 wickets in 11 Tests. Steyn needs 40 wickets in his next five Tests to beat Lillee, 40 in six to tie. I reckon it’s just a bit too much, particularly with blokes like the old de Lange and the new Philander sure to be amongst the wickets as well.

    Any milestones beyond 300 - and certainly after 350 - are pretty much already out of reach thanks to the phenomenon that was Murali.

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    Murali really took off into another dimension after those first 245 wickets, didn't he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.I.Joe View Post
    Murali really took off into another dimension after those first 245 wickets, didn't he?
    Yeah, he was absolutely freakish. As we were discussing on the first page of this thread, there was a seven-year period where he took 400-odd wickets at 19, averaging better than 7 wickets per Test. Scarcely believable numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    Yeah, he was absolutely freakish. As we were discussing on the first page of this thread, there was a seven-year period where he took 400-odd wickets at 19, averaging better than 7 wickets per Test. Scarcely believable numbers.
    If im not wrong, he had a 10 year period where he took 630 wickets @less than 20 apiece at 7wpm, which is freaking ridiculous

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    Do you reckon Steyn would have had a better chance off getting the landmark had Phillander not been picked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sean View Post
    Not sure how to get a full list, but here are a few notables after 50 Tests. I'd be surprised if this wasn't the top 10, or bloody close to it.

    Lillee – 262 wickets at 23.40
    Steyn – 260 wickets at 22.90
    Donald – 251 wickets at 22.12
    Murali – 245 wickets at 26.37
    Waqar – 244 wickets at 22.07
    Marshall – 237 wickets at 21.42
    Warne – 235 wickets at 23.72
    Hadlee – 235 wickets at 23.94
    McGrath – 234 wickets at 22.77
    Bedser – 232 wickets at 24.67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabinet96 View Post
    Do you reckon Steyn would have had a better chance off getting the landmark had Phillander not been picked?
    Yes. Which is why this is not as good a benchmark as average or even strike rate. Unlike batsmen that can all score a hundred, only one bowler can realistically get a fifer.

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    doing it by tests is borderline irrelevant. anyone wanna post an innings list? I think donald is on top in that one.

    this is what i got
    Donald: 90
    Steyn: 91
    Waqar: 92
    Lillee: 92

    could be wrong though.

    edit: this is to 250 wickets btw.
    Last edited by miscer; 29-12-2011 at 11:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miscer View Post
    doing it by tests is borderline irrelevant. anyone wanna post an innings list? I think donald is on top in that one.

    this is what i got
    Donald: 90
    Steyn: 91
    Waqar: 92
    Lillee: 92

    could be wrong though.

    edit: this is to 250 wickets btw.
    Personally I prefer it by balls bowled, Its like when we look at the number of runs batsmen score in X amount of tests, likewise I think the number of innings batted is more relevant.
    Cause Slifer said so.........!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slifer View Post
    Personally I prefer it by balls bowled, Its like when we look at the number of runs batsmen score in X amount of tests, likewise I think the number of innings batted is more relevant.
    If you're doing it by balls bowled, you're just sorting them by strike rate

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    Sanga has done well but Murali has done better. In my opinion, Murali is simply the best off spinner in history of cricket and I can't make that kind of statement for Sanga.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Runs conceded IMO.
    Now that's a novel idea

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    If Dale Steyn gets his 300th test wicket within 24 balls against the Black Caps at Newlands he will be the quickest to 300 in terms of balls bowled.

    Currently...

    Steyn 299 wickets in 12 578 balls
    Waqar Younis 12 602 balls
    Allan Donald 13 690 balls
    Malcolm Marshall 13 755 balls

    In terms of matches he will equal Sir Richard Hadlee and Malcolm Marshall with 61 matches.

    Lillee with 56 matches and Murali 58 matches.
    Last edited by SeamUp; 03-12-2012 at 08:56 AM.

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