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Aamer's mea culpa about a year too late. Not only was he bent, he then repeatedly lied about it.
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- As featured in The Independent.
"I don't think that they'll come close to us to be honest."
- Steve Smith before the Ashes
People simply don't know what's acceptable, not acceptable, and what's wrong and right.
Look at Amir. Kid, incredibly talented, but as ignorant as a newborn. Can't blame him. His education, upbringing is parsecs away from the "western" world which indicted him. He lives in a world where people have to fight to win a day's bread, heck to live to see the stars and the sun next morning. People completely forget how laws, rules, regulations etc are ultimately products of the society in whcih they live in. And hence relative too.
See, I am not condoning what these chaps did. Idiotic, no doubt. But they simply didn't know better. Atleast am sure Amir did'nt. Darn, at his age, I didn't know one needed to insert and ejaculate manship in womanship to create childship!
It's his only way of earning his daily bread. perhaps the only thing he's good at in his life. He was led astray. He needs to be corrected, not lynched.
These 10,000 people who watched this game didn't pledge to spend the rest of their lives with this chap. But Mrs. Warne did. For you and me, end of day, it's just a game, for her, it was her life.
Anyways enough of me pontificating. Summary of matter is : Sins are relative. So are absolutions. But whenever a person's crying out for it, his call must be answered. Otherwise how are we human?
The question that Bun points at is whether these (or any) crimes are forgivable? Spot-fixing.....tbh I didn't even know what it was before this episode (was aware of match-fixing) to what extent (if any) is pardonable? Does spot-fixing undermine the whole match? If it does then why did the ICC only hand out a 5 year ban?
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
Bun is winning this thread, IMO.
I do have some empathy with Amer and would like to see him getting another chance, after whatever number of years of ban he serves. No such feelings for Butt and Asif, though.
RIP Phil Hughes. Forever 63*
Amir and Asif might only have performed the "minor" crime of bowling no-balls to order, but how's that different to accepting cash to bowl poorly? They accepted cash bribes to underperform (iirc Amir had yet to bowl a no-ball in his entire First Class career before the incident).
Allowing charlatans such as these 3 to step out on a cricket field once their bans are done makes a mockery of the sport and makes a mockery of the thousands of players around the globe who play out of love for the game. All actions must have consequences.
Had Amir not lied I'd be fine with him not being banned for life, whilst Butt and Asif clearly should be.
But his constant lying, and he knew what he was doing, removes the naivety defence.
"I am very happy and it will allow me to have lot more rice."
Eoin Morgan on being given a rice cooker for being Man of the Match in a Dhaka Premier Division game.
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Not only that, the guy clearly tried all ways and means to squirm his way out of this entire incident, lying outright about his involvement. What makes you think he genuinely felt that his actions were wrong if he doesn't even want to accept his wrongdoings? Pleading guilty after he had basically no option remaining doesn't do jack**** in convincing me that he feels remorse.
If he wasn't such a talented bastard no one would give a ****. 5 years is lenient enough, he can still make a comeback after that period and his career isn't entirely over. I understand that he's young and naive due to the culture that he was brought up in, which is why he has been given that chance to make a come back provided he works hard enough on his own.
Theres a reason why ignorance is never an accepted excuse, and I'm sure you know what that reason is. The effect that a severe ban will have on the trio is valuable to cricket as a whole, young players in the future won't take the risk of losing their entire career for money as opposed to losing out just a few years if they can simply feign ignorance.
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