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Thread: Alastair Cook vs Graham Gooch?

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    lol

    Some great videos as usual Rob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    To be fair to the squeaky-voiced, moustachioed one he was undisputably the best batsman in the world for a period in the early 90s, even if it was a relatively brief 18-24 month window. & he was facing some pretty serious bowling attacks too.

    Over the course of their careers as a whole it'll look like a total non-brainer, but I'm not sure we've ever been able to call Cook the head honcho so far.
    Meh. Gooch was playing for 15 years by that time. And he is more or less became the best by default due to the retirements of all 70s-80s greats, and by 93-94 Tendulkar, Lara came to their own and Gooch was done for. I can guarantee that Cook will be considered the best batsmen in the world at some point in future. In fact I don't think it is even a contest between these two, cook is so far ahead (or he will be). Only thing in Gooch's favor is his 154*, something like that is simply not repeatable.

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    warner is younger than c00k therefore c00k will never be the best batsman in the world
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    I just love all kinds of balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L Trumper View Post
    Meh. Gooch was playing for 15 years by that time. And he is more or less became the best by default due to the retirements of all 70s-80s greats, and by 93-94 Tendulkar, Lara came to their own and Gooch was done for. I can guarantee that Cook will be considered the best batsmen in the world at some point in future. In fact I don't think it is even a contest between these two, cook is so far ahead (or he will be). Only thing in Gooch's favor is his 154*, something like that is simply not repeatable.
    Agree, once Cook continues in this vein, he will be considered (much) better than Gooch.


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    I wonder how Cook would have gone against Terry Alderman? One would hope better than Gooch.

    Terry Alderman - Swing Genius vs England 1989 - YouTube

    Unfortunately the 1981 Ashes series where Gooch averaged 13.90 (5 Tests), and the 1989 Ashes where he averaged 20.33 (5 Tests) are major blemishes on an otherwise distinguished career because they highlight Gooch's lack of technique/footwork against good swing bowling.

    However, at this this point in time I would still have to favour Gooch over Cook (just). The list of bowlers that dismissed Gooch reads like the Who's Who of bowling;

    01. Marshall
    02. Kapil Dev
    03. McDermott
    04. Lillee
    05. Alderman
    06. Holding
    07. Warne
    08. Hogg
    09. Lawson
    10. Hadlee
    11. Garner
    12. Patterson
    13. Ambrose
    14. Doshi
    15. Prabhakar
    etc

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    Victor Trumper - Bill Lawry - Don Bradman - Greg Chappell - Allan Border - Keith Miller - Adam Gilchrist - Alan Davidson - Shane Warne - Dennis Lillee - Glenn McGrath

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    I thnk you may have missed Wasim and Waqar and Walsh in that list
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    I thnk you may have missed Wasim and Waqar and Walsh in that list
    Walsh dismissed Gooch 3 times so he is 23rd on the list.

    Wasim and Waqar come in at 26th and 27th respectively after dismissing Gooch twice each.

    (Didn't feel like typing the names of all 71 bowlers)
    Last edited by watson; 05-01-2013 at 11:24 PM.

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    oh ok....fair enough....I thought it was a random list

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    oh ok....fair enough....I thought it was a random list
    Yeah, it does seem odd that Rodney Hogg or Patrick Patterson claimed Gooch's wicket more times than Courtney Walsh I guess.

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    Though judging from one of the video's Rob posted Waqar should have taken his wicket at least one more time.

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    Gooch was always one of my favourites. I'd take him over Cook any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Gooch was always one of my favourites. I'd take him over Cook any day.
    It's a lot closer to my mind now, but ultimately I would too, certainly against an unrelenting fast attack - memories of his great days against the WIndies pace pack are still strong

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    Quote Originally Posted by uvelocity View Post
    warner is younger than c00k therefore c00k will never be the best batsman in the world
    should say your faith in warner to go number 1 in the long term bets thread,
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