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Old 24-10-2003, 05:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Vintage Cricket - Official Drafting Thread

RULES:

1. The draft will be randomised, and we will pick in turn. Check ou this Vintage Baseball Draft I'm involved with to see how the selection will work:Vintage Baseball Draft Thread

2. There will be a 24 hour waiting period between each persons picks. But try and check in much more regularly. We'll suspend the 24 limitation at the weekends. If you miss the 24 hour period, you will be skipped. If you know you'll be away, you can PM or email a short list to me or someone else on the board, and we'll pick for you.

3. Once a player is picked, he's off the board. We all pick unique players! ALL PLAYERS ARE ELIGABLE, including current players.

4. The 7 scoring categories are (this simplifies it a bit):

Batting:

Batting Average
Career Runs Scored
Number of Hundreds

Bowling:

Bowling Average
Career Wickets
5-Wicket Hauls

Fielding:

Fielding Dismissals (including all forms of W/K dismissal, Catches and Run outs)

5. You must select the following positions (the brackets explain the positions):

Op - (Opener)
Op -
Mi - (Middle Order Batsman)
Mi -
Mi -
Mi -
Res - (Reserve)

WK - (Wicket Keeper)

B - (Bowler)
B -
B -
B -
B -

6. The eligability for a position is 10 GAMES. If you click the names of the players on the stats pages (below), you can find how many games they played at the various positions.

7. No-one can have more than 4 players from 1 test playing nation, and everyone has to have at least 1 player from each (Zimbabwe and Bangledesh apart). This will make it very interesting! Drafting tactics will play a big part.

8. These are some free stats sites to help you in your selections:

HOWSTAT BATTING STATS

HOWSTAT BOWLING STATS

Test Cricket Tens - annoying pop ups ... but good stats.

(I'll add more as we find them)

9. Scoring: at the end we will tally up the totals from everyone's teams. Each will be given points according to where you finish in each scoring category. The winner is the one with most overall points. The AVERAGE totals will be the most difficult to manage. This will obviously be effected by the amount of innings a batsman or bowler has i.e. 4000 overs at a bowling average of 35 could be quite a handicap to your team total. You have to manage this well.

10. This is a stats contest, so please do not be blinded by the big names, or the "greatest ever" lists. There are 7 scoring categories. I am imagining that the big time all-rounders will be the most valuable. You have to figure these things out for yourself though ...

RANDOMISED DRAFT ORDER:

1. Mister Wright
2. luckyeddie
3. Slats4ever
4. marc71178
5. PY
6. JohnnyA
7. gibbsnsmith
8. Mr Mxyzptlk
9. Neil Pickup
10. Iamdavid
11. age_master

There are no official rankings here, because we are using a unique scoring system. Please beware that the "best" batter of bowler is not necessarily the "best" pick.

EDIT: Please do not be mentioning or discussing names before they have been picked. It's fine to give a justification of your own pick, and to comment on players who have already been selected. No point giving away drafting strategy to you competitors!!!

EDIT: IF a player has taken less than 100 wickets, or average more than 40.00, his stats willautomatically be disregarded unless the GM stats otherwise.

EDIT: If a player has scored less than 1000 runs or averages less than 13.00, his stats will automatically be disregarded unless the GM states otherwise.

I'll deal with any anomolous situations as they emerge.

So for instance, if you want to pick Viv Richards, but don't like the fact that he took 60 wickets at an average of 61, then his bowling stats will not harm your team average. His 61 average could be harmful for your overall team bowling average. Similar with Courtney Walsh's or Murali's crippling 130+ batting dismissals.


1. Mister Wright
2. luckyeddie
3. Slats4ever
4. marc71178
5. PY
6. JohnnyA
7. gibbsnsmith
8. Mr Mxyzptlk
9. Neil Pickup
10. Iamdavid
11. age_master

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Old 24-10-2003, 05:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Mister Wright picked:

1.01 Alec Stewart (England) (WK) (143)

Batting Average - 39.55
Career Runs - 8463
Hundreds - 15

Bowling Average - n/a
Career Wickets - 0
5 wicket hauls - 0

Dismissals - 277 (263/14)

Even though it was tempting having the first pick going for an allrounder or a batsman like Gavaskar or a bowler like Walsh I thought it important to pick the highest scoring keeper, as there is only one.

It was close between Stewart and Flower. Flower's average is far superior, but Stewart has 4000+ more runs and over 100 more dismissals than Flower and three more hundreds.

With another 26 picks before I get my next one, I though it would be good to get the keeper now, before all the good ones were taken, hopefully there will be enough batsman, bowlers & allrounders left for my next pick.

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Old 24-10-2003, 06:30 AM   #3 (permalink)
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OK, I'll pick George Lohmann (England) - bowler

Matches 18

Test Batting Average 8.87
Career runs 213
Hundreds 0

Test Bowling Average 10.75 (S/R 34.1, E/R 1.88)
Total wickets 112
5-wicket hauls 9

Fielding dismissals 28
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Old 25-10-2003, 04:33 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I've decided to select none other than

1.03
Donald George Bradman (52 tests)

Middle Order
Batting Average: 99.94
Career Runs: 6996
Hundreds: 29

Bowling Average: 36
Career Wickets: 2
5 wicket hauls: 0


I don't really get this at the moment but i figure u can't really go past the best ever so why not
if he performs in real life he will in this
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Old 25-10-2003, 07:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'm going to go with my gut feeling since I can't really be bothered to do a lot of research!

1.04
Muttiah Muralitharan
Matches: 82

Batting Average: 11.82
Career Runs: 768
Hundreds: 0

Bowling Average: 23.55
Career Wickets: 459
5 Wicket Hauls: 38

Fielding Dismissals: 40
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Old 25-10-2003, 09:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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1.05 Ian 'Beefy' Botham

Matches: 102

Batting Average: 33.54
Career Runs: 5210
Fifties: 22
Hundreds: 14

Bowling Average: 28.40
Career Wickets: 383
5 Wicket Hauls: 27

Fielding Dismissals: 120

Thought that all-rounders will go quickly so I'd best get Beefy before he went.....

Didn't actually realise just how damn good he was!!! I've learnt something already :P

(I prefer to use a cricket phrase rather than a baseball one so Johnny A, you're in and Gibbsnsmith pad up)

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Old 25-10-2003, 09:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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1.07 Hershuelle Gibbs

Matches:51
Batting Average:44.76
Career Runs:3671
50s-12
100s-10

Fielding Dismissals:36

Well, i just chose him out of pure idol-ness...god knows if im supposd to follow in a pattern or something.

P.S Liam, youre up mate.

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Sorry, i wasnt paying atention. I couldve swore Johnny had posted...i changed Gibbs to 1.07

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Old 25-10-2003, 01:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't think I'll be picking Gibbsy anyhoos gibbsnsmith could you either change the number of your pick to 1.07, or re-post after me if Mr MX hasn't picked when you see this.

1.06 Garfield Sobers

BA - 57.78
RUNS - 8032
100's - 26

BA - 34.04
WICK - 235
5WI - 6

Dis - 109 catches

Great all round stats. Should provide a good foundation for my team! The 34 bowling average isn't fantastic, but I can deal with that later.
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Imran Khan Niazi
Bat: 37.69
Runs: 3807
100's: 6

Bowl: 22.81
W: 362
5W: 23

Mefinks 'tis the ginger one now.
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Methinks you ought to be slightly more deferential towards your elders and betters :P

1.09 Ramlal Nikhanj Kapil Dev

Batting: 31.05
Runs: 5248
100s: 8

Bowling: 29.65
Wickets: 434
5wI: 23

David, you're in the middle, and Andy, get your pads on.
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1.10 Adam C Gilchrist

my keeper

matches:47

batting:60.25
runs:3073
100's:9

wicket keeping dismisalls:203

I thought it important to get my keeper out of the way first , favoured Gilchrist over Flower for his slightly higher average & more dismissals.
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1.11 Stephen Waugh

Matches: 164
Batting: 51.25
Runs: 10660
100s: 32

Bowling: 36.95
Wickets: 91
5wI: 3

Dismissals: 112
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2.01 Countney Walsh


Matches: 132
Batting: 7.54
Runs: 936
100s: 0

Bowling: 24.44
Wickets: 519
5wI: 22

Dismissals: 29
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[B]2.02 Richard J Hadlee

bowler

matches:86

batting:27.17
runs:3124
100's:2

bowling:22.30
wickets:431
5wi:36

dismissalls:39

Cant beleive he wasnt picked yet!
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2.03 Andrew Flower

Tests: 63

Batting: 51.55
Runs: 4794
Tons: 13

Catches: 151 (142 as wk)
Stumpings: 9
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