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best 5 predominantly defensive batsman of last 20 years
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Agent Nationaux
International Coach
From the current lot you can also add Trott and Misbah.
not sure about richardson over steve waugh, but yes, he can come in the place of atapattu...
hmmm, had a little doubt about this all throughout...actually, kallis or dravid also could be attacking if the situation demanded...that is why i put it as predominantly...well, it's always going to be a difficult judgement...
Zinzan
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Last 20 years brah, Fiery & Sunny were both well retired by 1991
Everyone seems to have forgotten (or be unaware of) the fact that, early on in his career, Steve Waugh was a very, very aggressive batsman. I was talking to my dad about it a few weeks ago, and he went so far as to say he was a bigger/better strokemaker than his brother.
Only after being dropped in 1991 did he come back and start grinding out runs for fun. Then, when he started pulling out slog sweeps in ODIs everyone had forgotten he was actually capable of playing those shots.
Michael Clarke's done a similar thing TBH.
As for the question:
1. Dravid
2. Kallis
3. Chanderpaul
4. Cook
5. Trott
All of them have the ability to score more quickly to be perfectly honest.
Only after being dropped in 1991 did he come back and start grinding out runs for fun. Then, when he started pulling out slog sweeps in ODIs everyone had forgotten he was actually capable of playing those shots.
Michael Clarke's done a similar thing TBH.
As for the question:
1. Dravid
2. Kallis
3. Chanderpaul
4. Cook
5. Trott
All of them have the ability to score more quickly to be perfectly honest.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I'd put forward Gary Kirsten's name for this
Not sure how the great improviser Neil Fairbrother got into the OP - if he deserves to be in any current thread its the one about players who didn't fulfil their talent, at Test level anyway
Not sure how the great improviser Neil Fairbrother got into the OP - if he deserves to be in any current thread its the one about players who didn't fulfil their talent, at Test level anyway
BoyBrumby
Englishman
It might be my imagination, but I think The Wall is getting slightly more attacking as he gets older. He was faced with "backs-to-the-wall" situations practically every time he came out to bat this summer (with the exception of his first knock at TB) but never once seemed to miss an opportunity to put the bad ball away.
Outswinger@Pace
International 12th Man
I'd exclude Kallis and Dravid from this list. Two players with pretty much all the strokes in the book and do play them at the test level when the situation calls for it; even though their mindset is a defensive one. Same can be said, in a sense, for S. Waugh and Atapattu.
Best predominantly defensive players, for me, are (1990 onwards):
Shiv Chanderpaul (that odd innings notwithstanding)
Gary Kirsten
Michael Atherton
Hashan Tillakaratne
Mark Richardson
Brian McMillan is worthy of honourable mention too. Not the most complete batsman, but could hook brilliantly and had the patience to make the bowlers bowl to his strengths. He was priceles for South Africa in the 90s.
Best predominantly defensive players, for me, are (1990 onwards):
Shiv Chanderpaul (that odd innings notwithstanding)
Gary Kirsten
Michael Atherton
Hashan Tillakaratne
Mark Richardson
Brian McMillan is worthy of honourable mention too. Not the most complete batsman, but could hook brilliantly and had the patience to make the bowlers bowl to his strengths. He was priceles for South Africa in the 90s.
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smash84
The Tiger King
Oh crap. Didn't bother to read the topic carefully since I was quite sleepy at 4 am in the morning
i think it has more to do with the fact that he was in a good form when he went to england, got a very important match winning century in west indies before that...don't think it has much to do with he is trying to be more attacking or something...frankly, if u see the innings that he played when he was in good feel, say for example his 233 in australia or 270 in pakistan, 190 in new zealand and many other innings like these, u will see that he hardly missed any weak deliveries...and in general, here i am talking about mostly ODI's, i am sure both in case of rahul and kallis u will see that in the second part of their career, their strike rate is much higher than the initial half...for example, somewhere in 2000, i think dravid's ODI strike rate was about 62...he ended up around 71-72...means his strike rate must have been in the high 70's, close to 80 in last 6-7 years...i think the same thing must have been with kallis as well...