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    RULES EDIT: please do not be mentioning or discussing names before they have been picked. It's fine to give a justification of your own pick, and to comment on players who have already been selected. No point giving away drafting strategy to you competitors!!!

    BTW ... the first round always takes the longest. Until people are familiar with where they are picking etc, and the fact that they have to check in, it'll go slowly. But it will speed up when your teams start to take shape, and interest grows

    There are always a couple who join, then sort of forget until reminded ... unfortuntley there is no PM or IM option in the forum.
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    Originally posted by JohnnyA
    1. The draft will be randomised, and we will pick in turn. Check ou this Vintage Baseball Draft I'm involved with to see how the selection will work:Vintage Baseball Draft Thread
    So this oprder remains the same throughout, or what.

    Giving us numbers for Round 1 - ie 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc.

    In Round 2 is it 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 etc. or what?


    Originally posted by JohnnyA
    2. There will be a 24 hour waiting period between picks. But try and check in much more regularly. We'll suspend the 24 limitation at the weekends. If you miss the 24 hour period, you will be skipped.
    24 hours between when? may be a bit harsh to enforce, especially with the time differences across the world.
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    Originally posted by JohnnyA
    Luckyeddie was here and didn't make his pick! Can we please check the thread whenever we come to the Website.

    Erm, isn't this getting a bit too regimented - people may only pop on to answer one thread or other, and might miss the odd thing they should respond to.

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    Is anyone else putting together a short or long list? I'm trying to build a spreadsheet. In the end, I'll prob'ly just list the names in some sort of order ... and then watch as they're taken by others ... as is the way with these drafts.

    There's a lot to figure into the equation:

    1. Everyone has to pick someone from every test playing nation (apart from Zim and Bang).
    2. No more than 4 from each country.
    3. Positional scarcity (i.e. W/K for sure, openers maybe?)
    4. The value of all-rounders verse specialists

    Everyone should make up some sort of draft sheet, and fill in the names of the players everyone picks. Some sort of spreadsheet or grid/table should work.

    Also, make sure you keep track of the positions you need to fill. Remember, there is a 10 game minimum for positional eligability.


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    Originally posted by marc71178 Erm, isn't this getting a bit too regimented - people may only pop on to answer one thread or other, and might miss the odd thing they should respond to.
    Hi Marc,

    24 hours is actually very very leisurely ... when we get up and running you'll realise that this is not regimented at all. The limit is also suspended at the weekend. Asking people to wait any longer is unreasonable.

    I'm reminding people now to make sure they know we've started. I did say at the beginning that it's best to be able to check in quite regularly. The fact that people check in in different time zones should have no real bearing.

    I just ask that people check the draft whenever they come to the site. That's not too much to ask.

    At the start of the baseball season, when we do these drafts "for real", there's normally a 3 hour limit on picks during the day ... and that frustrates some people

    So this order remains the same throughout, or what.
    It snakes back and forth Marc. Last to pick in round 1, is first to pick in round 2 ... and so on for 13 rounds of drafting. There are different strategies depending on were you draft. If you're at the corners, you get two quick picks, then you have to wait a while. It's pretty easy to predict who will not be available next time around. If you're in the middle, then you have to consider who might be available next time around ... because it's easier to predict. Best position in my book is in-between middle and end.
    Last edited by JohnnyA; 24-10-2003 at 11:37 AM.

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    Originally posted by JohnnyA
    24 hours is actually very very leisurely ... when we get up and running you'll realise that this is not regimented at all. The limit is also suspended at the weekend. Asking people to wait any longer is unreasonable.
    I mistakenly read it as 24 hours for the whole round.

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    Originally posted by marc71178
    I mistakenly read it as 24 hours for the whole round.
    NP ... I updated the rules to make sure there was no more ambiguity. You weren't the only one to misread that

    Thanks,

    Jon

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    Just a reminder to y'all make your picks in the other thread. Let's leave this one for commentary and discussion.

    Things will pick up when we get started

    If you don't mind a reminder when your pick is due, then please leave your email when you make your first pick.

    All the best, and good luck,

    Jon

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    This is moved from the other thread

    Originally posted by luckyeddie
    since the very nature of this thread is that it should be visited by a dozen members regularly, it should pretty well stay on the first page automatically so 'topping' it isn't necessary (besides, it's probably only of interest to those actually having a go).

    We could well think of setting up a forum section for this type of activity, though, thus keeping it away from the regular cricket chat.
    I agree with both points. There are probably too many Topped/Sticky threads as it is. It's confusing.

    As for moving this to another forum section, could we hold off on that until after the first round of drafting. That way everyone will know.

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    Nice pick Slats ... that 100 BA and and 30 odd hundreds should set you up nicely in the batting categories.

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    Originally posted by Slats4ever
    do u have MSN Johhny A?
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    I have Windows Messenger ... if that's the same

    Johnnya24 is my handle if so.

    Please make your picks in the other thread ... this thread is for discussion and debate about the draft. Thanks, Jon.
    Last edited by JohnnyA; 25-10-2003 at 05:54 AM.

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    Just a few things Im not 100% on ,
    Will you gain extra points by picking batsman who can bowl a little (ie: do batsman's bowling stats & bowlers batting stats count) and if so are they weighted to reflect the fact these guys dont bowl much.

    Also I assume we are picking current players right??

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    Originally posted by iamdavid
    Just a few things Im not 100% on ,
    Will you gain extra points by picking batsman who can bowl a little (ie: do batsman's bowling stats & bowlers batting stats count) and if so are they weighted to reflect the fact these guys dont bowl much.

    Also I assume we are picking current players right??
    Current players ... yes ...

    There WAS a clause at the end of the rules in the first post of this thread that dealt with this. I've no idea where it went. I'll update it again It stated that: If you select a player as a batter you can elect to discard his bowling stats as long as he has taken less than 100 wickets.

    So for instance, if you want to pick Viv Richards, but don't like the fact that he took 60 wickets at an average of 61, then you can elect to discard is bowling stats. His 61 average could be harmful for your overall team bowling average. BUT you have to discard ALL his bowling stats. You can't keep his 60 wickets and discard his harmful Bowling Average.

    But if you pick Ian Botham or Kapil Dev, then that's a different matter.

    Hope that helps.

    Jon

    EDIT: I just added the 100 wicket limit (I forgot)

    Please make your picks in the other thread ... this thread is for discussion and debate about the draft. Thanks, Jon.
    Last edited by JohnnyA; 25-10-2003 at 06:05 AM.

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    Really nice pick with Imran Khan Mr Mxyzptlk. Maybe the best all-rounder stats wise now that I'm thinking about it.

    Those averages in both batting and bowling are incredible.

    Jon

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