David Saker-Appreciation

Xuhaib · 23-08-2011, 11:44 PM

Anderson had his most productive period under his monitoring, Finn and Bresnan come in to test cricket and immediately look at ease never imagined bresnan would be such a huge success when I first saw him. Tremlett makes his return after 4 years and just like others have his best performance for England during this period and last but not least Broad turns around his woeful form starts bowling like an ATG when many were questioning his place in the side.

Top_Cat · 23-08-2011, 11:54 PM

That and he paid his own way to the interview in England then told CA to shove it when they offered him a job. WAFG.

Xuhaib · 23-08-2011, 11:57 PM

England seems to have a knack of picking great coaches before Saker there was Troy Cooley even Andy Flower seems like a gun choice.

GIMH · 23-08-2011, 11:57 PM

What was the reason he told CA to shove it, is it known?

He's doing a wonderful job by all accounts.

GIMH · 24-08-2011, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Xuhaib

England seems to have a knack of picking great coaches before Saker there was Troy Cooley even Andy Flower seems like a gun choice.

Cooley's stock has plummeted since he left tbh. He obviously did a good job with Flintoff and Jones in helping them get the ball to reverse. Hoggard and Harmison weren't noticeably better or worse in his tenure. However, James Anderson...well...

He's also in charge of the Aussie quicks now IIRC

Kylez · 24-08-2011, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Cooley's stock has plummeted since he left tbh. He obviously did a good job with Flintoff and Jones in helping them get the ball to reverse. Hoggard and Harmison weren't noticeably better or worse in his tenure. However, James Anderson...well...

He's also in charge of the Aussie quicks now IIRC

He was for the last few years but recently he left the position as bowling coach and Craig Mcdermott has replaced him. By all reports, Cooley didn't do a terrible job but one feels he tried to change Johnson's bowling action/style too many times.

GIMH · 24-08-2011, 05:22 AM

Similar to his work with Anderson then

four_or_six · 24-08-2011, 05:26 AM

It was apparently Saker who saw Tremlett bowl two deliveries to KP in the nets last summer and went to Flower and told him he should be in the Ashes squad. Good call!

This winter will be the real test for Saker - he's done great so far but it's all very well for an Aussie to come up with brilliant plans for each test pitch in Australia, it's going to be tougher for him to do it in Dubai and Sri Lanka.

Top_Cat · 24-08-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

What was the reason he told CA to shove it, is it known?

He's doing a wonderful job by all accounts.

Can't remember where I read it but I think he was only seriously considered for the pace bowling spot here after he interviewed in England.

tooextracool · 24-08-2011, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

Cooley's stock has plummeted since he left tbh. He obviously did a good job with Flintoff and Jones in helping them get the ball to reverse.

Very much doubt that Cooley had anything to do with reverse swing. Jones was known to get the ball to reverse while Cooley was nowhere near England. By all accounts, Flintoff picked up the skill from Jones.

flibbertyjibber · 25-08-2011, 09:09 AM

Saker has done a fine job so far. Shane Warne has always talked him up since he was appointed and for once he has got something right.

zaremba · 26-08-2011, 04:07 PM

Surprised no-one in this discussion has yet mentioned Stuart Broad and the "E" word.

FBU · 26-08-2011, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tooextracool

Very much doubt that Cooley had anything to do with reverse swing. Jones was known to get the ball to reverse while Cooley was nowhere near England. By all accounts, Flintoff picked up the skill from Jones.

Yes that is also what I read.

I think the Enforcer role has been passed to Bresnan.

OMM! · 27-08-2011, 08:59 AM

Big Timmy Bresnan is the enforcer now.

Smashed Mukund, Yuvraj and Raina to pieces!

Saker's biggest asset is his ability to get the bowlers thinking for themselves.

SpaceMonkey · 27-08-2011, 01:15 PM

I was under the impression sugary sweets had a lot to do with the reverse swing we found in 2005? or was that just bitching by hating Aussies?

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23-08-2011, 11:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Xuhaib Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Karachi Posts: 9,394	England seems to have a knack of picking great coaches before Saker there was Troy Cooley even Andy Flower seems like a gun choice.

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GIMH Eternal Optimist Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Shake my tree where's the apple for me? Posts: 43,576	Similar to his work with Anderson then

24-08-2011, 05:26 AM	#8 (permalink)
four_or_six Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 9,136	It was apparently Saker who saw Tremlett bowl two deliveries to KP in the nets last summer and went to Flower and told him he should be in the Ashes squad. Good call! This winter will be the real test for Saker - he's done great so far but it's all very well for an Aussie to come up with brilliant plans for each test pitch in Australia, it's going to be tougher for him to do it in Dubai and Sri Lanka.

25-08-2011, 09:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,887	Saker has done a fine job so far. Shane Warne has always talked him up since he was appointed and for once he has got something right.

26-08-2011, 04:07 PM	#12 (permalink)
zaremba Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chez les Ashes Posts: 8,726	Surprised no-one in this discussion has yet mentioned Stuart Broad and the "E" word.

27-08-2011, 08:59 AM	#14 (permalink)
OMM! U19 12th Man Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: London Posts: 266	Big Timmy Bresnan is the enforcer now. Smashed Mukund, Yuvraj and Raina to pieces! Saker's biggest asset is his ability to get the bowlers thinking for themselves.

27-08-2011, 01:15 PM	#15 (permalink)
SpaceMonkey International Debutant Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Worcestershire, UK Posts: 2,076	I was under the impression sugary sweets had a lot to do with the reverse swing we found in 2005? or was that just bitching by hating Aussies?

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