Can Australia rebuild in time for the next Ashes series

[Son Of Coco]

Yeah but your batting won't always fail as often. You got good players there who were out of form at the same time.

It will against a consistent attack who can bowl to a plan (and on one side of the wicket)...almost anyone's batting line-up will. When you then turn around and throw up (in every sense of the phrase) an inconsistent attack against a decent batting order you'll get flogged 9 times out of 10.

Kumar has shown that it's possible to get rid of England's top order if you bowl in the right spots, but sadly for him he has no support...we did that once in 5 tests and got flogged in the rest. England's batting line-up is good, but I think they're bowling unit has become incredibly impressive over the recent year. Anderson used to be so inconsistent (lets face it, he had a heart the size of a pea when bowling in unfriendly conditions) but now he's very good. The rest of the pace attack has also come along very nicely.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah but your batting won't always fail as often. You got good players there who were out of form at the same time.

It will against a consistent attack who can bowl to a plan (and on one side of the wicket)...almost anyone's batting line-up will. When you then turn around and throw up (in every sense of the phrase) an inconsistent attack against a decent batting order you'll get flogged 9 times out of 10.

Kumar has shown that it's possible to get rid of England's top order if you bowl in the right spots, but sadly for him he has no support...we did that once in 5 tests and got flogged in the rest. England's batting line-up is good, but I think they're bowling unit has become incredibly impressive over the recent year. Anderson used to be so inconsistent (lets face it, he had a heart the size of a pea when bowling in unfriendly conditions) but now he's very good. The rest of the pace attack has also come along very nicely.

England and Australia, united in mutual respect and admiration.

*kills self*

 

[Son Of Coco]

England and Australia, untied in mutual respect and admiration.

*kills self*

As a former bowler I always enjoy watching players who can bowl consistently well, even if ours are ****ing hopeless at the moment. I have only grudging respect for the English batting line-up and still think Bell's a **** though...so you can come down off the ledge

 

[Goughy]

Even if we do drastically improve, and even given how much can happen two years down the track, it's exceptionally difficult right now to see England being beaten at home if they have have anything like the team they have right now. I mean, getting above #5 is definitely possible and achievable, but winning the England leg of the Ashes? Geez.

Do you know how many years I have waited to read a post like that? As an England fan, this post make me weep with joy. How things (slowly) change.

 

[DriveClub]

Nope don't see it happening, gap is just widening by the day.

 

[robelinda]

Very insane for an Aussie to be thinking we have realistic chance of beating ENGLAND in the next few years. May as well cut my wrists.

 

[GotSpin]

Very insane for an Aussie to be thinking we have realistic chance of beating ENGLAND in the next few years. May as well cut my wrists.

I actually don't think its completely outrageous. Things are going pretty horribly for us at the moment but the 2013 series is still a fair way off. Like I mentioned before, I'm more worried about the three upcoming test series that are all being played against teams ranked higher than us.

 

[NasserFan207]

This defeatist attitude is pretty un-aussie like guys. I think the team needs to get tough again. They need a Tony Greig or Border type figure to take over and go 'we will make them bleed'.

 

[Ruckus]

This defeatist attitude is pretty un-aussie like guys. I think the team needs to get tough again. They need a Tony Greig or Border type figure to take over and go 'we will make them bleed'.

You mean like this guy?

 

[Ruckus]

Think we should bring Hastings in and make him captain for the sole fact that he looks like he wants to crush some skulls:

 

[TumTum]

It's still long way away and anything can change. Youngsters like Khawaja, Hughes, Hazlewood, Starc, Pattinson, Smith (just kidding ) can become world beaters by then.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

It's still long way away and anything can change. Youngsters like Khawaja, Hughes, Hazlewood, Starc, Pattinson, Smith (just kidding ) can become world beaters by then.

Quite easily.

Who'd have said 2 years ago that Trott, Tremlett, Bresnan and Finn would have given England such depth and Bell would have matured into almost the complete player?

 

[NasserFan207]

Epic DeusEx. ****ing epic

 

[TumTum]

Quite easily.

Who'd have said 2 years ago that Trott, Tremlett, Bresnan and Finn would have given England such depth and Bell would have matured into almost the complete player?

Cook is the best example. From second worst opener (McIntosh being worst) to arguably the worlds best in just 1 year

 

[sanga1337]

Quite easily.

Who'd have said 2 years ago that Trott, Tremlett, Bresnan and Finn would have given England such depth and Bell would have matured into almost the complete player?

The difference with players such as the guys you listed and the aussie youngsters is that england managed to get loads more first class games / test experience pumped into them which fast tracked their development. Bresnan and Finn had a lot more games pumped into them two years ago than Hazlewood, Starc and Pattinson have now.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Do you know how many years I have waited to read a post like that? As an England fan, this post make me weep with joy. How things (slowly) change.

Makes 20 years of near-constant batterings almost worthwhile.

 

[GotSpin]

The difference with players such as the guys you listed and the aussie youngsters is that england managed to get loads more first class games / test experience pumped into them which fast tracked their development. Bresnan and Finn had a lot more games pumped into them two years ago than Hazlewood, Starc and Pattinson have now.

We really need more first class games. Most guys are playing less than 10 a season. Just not enough

 

[Riggins]

Think we should bring Hastings in and make him captain for the sole fact that he looks like he wants to crush some skulls:

Get him off the coke first!!

 

[Cevno]

Should make the Chappell brother's incharge of everything first

 

[smash84]

Swann, that tail is the best tail I've ever seen.

This is a BIG statement since you have seen a LOT of cricket (quite literally).

And NO Australia won't be improving any time soon with the likes of Steve Smith and Nathan Hauritz