Wasim Akram 'I'm fed up with the attitude of some players'

[slowfinger]

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This guy talks sense. 'I am fed up of people retiring and coming out of retirement' really catches it for me.

Your views?

 

[G.I.Joe]

Wonder if he's consistent enough to apply that statement to Imran Khan too?

 

[smash84]

Wonder if he's consistent enough to apply that statement to Imran Khan too?

haha.........doesn't have the guts (nor the butts ) to do that...........

 

[Himannv]

owe this much to cricket. If any youngster comes up to me and asks me for advice, I have to give it. I can't say, "Sorry, you're not Pakistani." For me every cricketer is from one fraternity.

Love this bit.

I see the rift between Waqar and Wasim still hasn't been repaired.

 

[smash84]

yep......Wasim dishing it out to Waqar but Wasim does have a point here. He did back Waqar when Waqar was first appointed as coach

 

[Himannv]

yep......Wasim dishing it out to Waqar but Wasim does have a point here. He did back Waqar when Waqar was first appointed as coach

Oh, not contesting that he has a point. Being a bit of a Wasim fan I dont mind him dishing it out to anyone.

 

[slowfinger]

Oh, not contesting that he has a point. Being a bit of a Wasim fan I dont mind him dishing it out to anyone.

 

[Fusion]

I actually disagree with Wasim’s point about coaches. I think the level of authority a captain or a coach has over team selection or even team direction should be dependent on who that individual is. If the Captain is Imran Khan, then I would want the Coach to defer to him. If, OTOH, the Captain is Shoaib Malik, then I’d rather Bob Woolmer call the shots. In a perfect world, they would both work together and peacefully for the betterment of the team. That perfect world will never exist in Pakistan Cricket though.

 

[smash84]

I actually disagree with Wasim’s point about coaches. I think the level of authority a captain or a coach has over team selection or even team direction should be dependent on who that individual is. If the Captain is Imran Khan, then I would want the Coach to defer to him. If, OTOH, the Captain is Shoaib Malik, then I’d rather Bob Woolmer call the shots. In a perfect world, they would both work together and peacefully for the betterment of the team. That perfect world will never exist in Pakistan Cricket though.

Wasim has a point that the captain has to lead the team in the field and he should have the final say...........

 

[vcs]

Haha, I bet Sania Mirza is the one calling the shots in the Malik household.

 

[Fusion]

Wasim has a point that the captain has to lead the team in the field and he should have the final say...........

Everyone's accountable though, not just the Captain. If the team loses, the Coach will be sacked just as easily as the Captain. It's not like the Captain is operating out there in a vacuum. The Captain works out the team strategy before the match, in consultation with the Coaches. So I don’t see why the Coach can’t have significant input on the team selection. Like I said in my post, I think a person’s “clout/success” determines how much authority they have and rightfully so IMO.

Edit: To talk specifically about the current situation, since Afridi was Captain of the team, I prefer that Waqar was highly involved in team selection. I liked Afridi's captaincy and thought he was the best choice to lead the team from the options we had. However, he's highly volatile as we all know and prone to making…questionable…decisions. If he’s Captain, I want a strong coach watching over him.

 

[Himannv]

Haha, I bet Sania Mirza is the one calling the shots in the Malik household.

Thats so below the belt mate.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Nah Fusion, Wasim's right. Its the captain that walks up to the presentation at the end of a defeat to face the inquest.

Anyway, the root cause of this power struggle is your ridiculous policy of appointing captains on a series-by-series basis. You think that'd make your captain insecure? No wonder you guys keep having these periodic mini-coups with players divided into various camps. When these rivalries erupt to the surface is the best case scenario. Its worse when these tensions keep simmering below the surface and rivals aspirants to the captaincy keep undermining each other by way of manipulating on-field performances and dressing room politics. In addition to affecting performances, this uncertainty hinders development of any viable long term strategy. It's inevitable that the coach considers himself top dog in such a set-up, given that he enjoys the sort of permanency that the captain doesn't. It's not the personalities of the coach and captain that's deciding who's in charge; it's your ridiculous ad hoc captaincy policy that's making that decision.

 

[Fusion]

Nah Fusion, Wasim's right. Its the captain that walks up to the presentation at the end of a defeat to face the inquest.

Anyway, the root cause of this power struggle is your ridiculous policy of appointing captains on a series-by-series basis. You think that'd make your captain insecure? No wonder you guys keep having these periodic mini-coups with players divided into various camps. When these rivalries erupt to the surface is the best case scenario. Its worse when these tensions keep simmering below the surface and rivals aspirants to the captaincy keep undermining each other by way of manipulating on-field performances and dressing room politics. In addition to affecting performances, this uncertainty hinders development of any viable long term strategy. It's inevitable that the coach considers himself top dog in such a set-up, given that he enjoys the sort of permanency that the captain doesn't. It's not the personalities of the coach and captain that's deciding who's in charge; it's your ridiculous ad hoc captaincy policy that's making that decision.

I agree with everything that you and Wasim are saying about the lack of support the Captain receives from the PCB, specially as it relates to the ad hoc captaincy policy. That doesn't mean the Coach benefits from it or gets security because of it. We've had plenty of coaching changes in the last decade. They are as vulnerable as the Captain. I guess I just prefer a strong coach if the Captain is a inexperienced or his judgment questionable.

 

[Anku31]

Coaches must be like John Wright & Gary Kirsten,who remain behind the scenes & do their work efficiently.They must have had their views in every decision the captains made or the BCCI made but the fact that they never made it public is the reason behind their success.A team should be like a household.Whatever they do,no other person should know it.If a family fights one day,the neighbors should not know about it.Otherwise,they will try to take advantage of it & make it over-hyped.That's the case with the media,give them a little evidence & they will add their own spices to it & the final result would be both captain & coach being sacked by the board.
The situation with Pakistani players & coaches is that everyone has his own attitude & if something goes opposite to their way,they will come out & shout loud.It's a situation like the Indian reality TV shows.Everyone wants to gain popularity,by hook or by crook.By swearing on live TV,by talking s***,by removing clothes,or by whatever.