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    Quote Originally Posted by Contra View Post
    Hit me balls are part of the kind of bowler he is though, he's a wicket taking bowler and he will have spell's where he's leaking runs, but as long as he can get us the breakthroughs regularly I think it's more than worth it, we have enough containment type of bowlers as it is, it's rare that we get a bowler who can produce a wicket out of no where.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pup Clarke View Post
    Arjun, where's Praveen? Why can't he get a game?
    Praveen hasn't played more than one match for his State team in this season's Ranji, and I'm not sure if he's even fit enough to run 100 metres at the ground, let alone play five-day cricket.

    Pankaj, on the other hand, is 100% fit. He just had one poor game this season, which was after Awana was picked over him. Maybe the next game will be good.
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    Haven't seen him play but heard today that he has gained pace this season, after working with Meyrick Pringle.

    Is bowling 135 to 140 Km consistently. If true, then selectors really must his face or something.

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    The Indian selectors seem to have something against people who have played enough FC cricket to have figured out their game, worked out their strengths and weaknesses, etc.

    It makes no sense. They are looking for the next wonderkid who's going to take over the world instead of taking a much more 'known' quantity who can actually contribute. Yes, the step up is big for the next level, but that's true no matter what (whether you select from the A team, U19 team, etc). If you're not going to use FC as a barometer to judge who is ready, then why even have a FC system in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    The Indian selectors seem to have something against people who have played enough FC cricket to have figured out their game, worked out their strengths and weaknesses, etc.

    It makes no sense. They are looking for the next wonderkid who's going to take over the world instead of taking a much more 'known' quantity who can actually contribute. Yes, the step up is big for the next level, but that's true no matter what (whether you select from the A team, U19 team, etc). If you're not going to use FC as a barometer to judge who is ready, then why even have a FC system in the first place.
    True but then Pankaj might be able to transcend this prejudice because he's tall and has a bit of pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Haven't seen him play but heard today that he has gained pace this season, after working with Meyrick Pringle.

    Is bowling 135 to 140 Km consistently. If true, then selectors really must his face or something.
    Saw highlights of one of his spells this season on Willowtv's channel. He looked quite good. Would be ideal for the tour to SA.

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    Pankaj Singh RAJ VS BENGAL .avi - YouTube

    Here's a Video of him bowling this season. Consistently bowls 135 to 140 now. 6 feet 6 inches and pretty accurate and also can bowl for long durations, if required.

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    That is very much an India-ready bowler. Tall, muscular, decently fast, very accurate and also capable of moving the ball well. Easily an immediate replacement for Ishant Sharma, and should be playing ahead of the likes of Ashok Dinda. He'd do well once Umesh Yadav returns and partners him, with Bhuv Kumar first-change. Fits in nicely. There's not much you can debate against that video, as it's not a stat sheet or a training recording.

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    Ignored for Fast bowlers camp which had 11 seamers and 7 spinners. Ignored for Rest of India team to play Mumbai in Irani trophy. Ignored for India A team to play Australia. Ignored for Boards president 11 to play Australia.

    Bloody hell. He surely has pissed someone off in the BCCI. Must have been close to Lalit Modi or something. Ludicrous.

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    Must've been banging Sreenivasan's daughter on the sly (if he has one). How in hell does that guy not get a game when you have utter chuts like Dinda and Jadeja waltzing into the national team?

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    With the Indian pace stocks in serious trouble, their newfound spearhead found wanting, and Pankaj Singh still doing a Whatmore and taking plenty of wickets (#3 in Ranji so far) yet again, time the selectors take notice and put aside their bias against Lalit Modi's erstwhile bastion- hang on, they have their own men in charge there, so why the hitch?

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    Pankaj Singh's Ranji season has finished, as Rajasthan could not make the knockouts. At least they're in the respectable group B, and not relegated to the mediocre (ask Rishi Dhawan, who can't make the national side despite being the top all-rounder) Group C. In eight games, he's taken 39 wickets, with a strike rate under 50 and three fives. Still not good enough for India?

    He's become desperate. He even tried to walk towards Roger Binny, who was watching the game, to find out why he isn't getting an India call-up. In this interview, he said that he feels he'll miss out because of his age. This is a sad conclusion, for we will now see age, not performance, being a criterion for national selection. It will also encourage a lot of age cheating. Another point he's made is that he's supposed to have missed out because of lack of pace- but points out that nobody except Umesh Yadav has genuine pace.

    He's been very, very unlucky, for missing out despite excellent domestic performances. We're seeing caps given to Ishant Sharma, who was never ready for the big stage, and look at what's happened now. We're seeing a tiny, slow, underpowered lad from UP promoted as India's pace hope, but he's got no hope now. We see a one-season wonder from Haryana pushed into a frontline role, and pushed out by formidable batting on a not-so-helpful pitch. We're seeing another domestic veteran from Karnataka picked, only to fail, and we blame the system, but he's at least seven inches shorter. We're seeing a revolving door of Indian pacers, when the door should have been welded shut with Pankaj Singh opening the bowling in Tests and ODIs. And then we wonder why India struggle with their pace bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
    Pankaj Singh's Ranji season has finished, as Rajasthan could not make the knockouts. At least they're in the respectable group B, and not relegated to the mediocre (ask Rishi Dhawan, who can't make the national side despite being the top all-rounder) Group C. In eight games, he's taken 39 wickets, with a strike rate under 50 and three fives. Still not good enough for India?

    He's become desperate. He even tried to walk towards Roger Binny, who was watching the game, to find out why he isn't getting an India call-up. In this interview, he said that he feels he'll miss out because of his age. This is a sad conclusion, for we will now see age, not performance, being a criterion for national selection. It will also encourage a lot of age cheating. Another point he's made is that he's supposed to have missed out because of lack of pace- but points out that nobody except Umesh Yadav has genuine pace.

    He's been very, very unlucky, for missing out despite excellent domestic performances. We're seeing caps given to Ishant Sharma, who was never ready for the big stage, and look at what's happened now. We're seeing a tiny, slow, underpowered lad from UP promoted as India's pace hope, but he's got no hope now. We see a one-season wonder from Haryana pushed into a frontline role, and pushed out by formidable batting on a not-so-helpful pitch. We're seeing another domestic veteran from Karnataka picked, only to fail, and we blame the system, but he's at least seven inches shorter. We're seeing a revolving door of Indian pacers, when the door should have been welded shut with Pankaj Singh opening the bowling in Tests and ODIs. And then we wonder why India struggle with their pace bowlers.
    The only problem I feel(I might be wrong) Pankaj Singh has is that he neither swings it a lot, nor does he hit the deck hard, just tries to bowl a good line and length and let the pitch do the rest(and he is not completely outstanding at that aswell). Such bowlers are useful, provided they hit the deck hard or get some seam movement, but Pankaj Singh doesn't seem to do that. Doesn't look like he can do well in other conditions where he might have to either make use of the extra bounce or the amount of swing on offer. But having said that, we anyways haven't had a lot of versatile bowlers of late who have done well everywhere(anywhere). In fact, Vinay Kumar is someone who bowls just like him but isn't as good comparatively.

    Regardless of what shortcomings there may be in his bowling, he certainly deserves a few opportunities or atleast he should be told about what is expected from him since he is willing to work hard and get it right.
    Last edited by karan316; 03-01-2014 at 07:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karan316 View Post
    The only problem I feel(I might be wrong) Pankaj Singh has is that he neither swings it a lot, nor does he hit the deck hard, just tries to bowl a good line and length and let the pitch do the rest...Regardless of what shortcomings there may be in his bowling, he certainly deserves a few opportunities or atleast he should be told about what is expected from him since he is willing to work hard and get it right.
    • "Pankaj doesn't swing"- we've seen plenty of Indian bowlers who can swing- but do nothing else- and are slow- and struggle when things don't go their way. Saviour Bhuvneshwar is the latest example.
    • "Pankaj doesn't hit the deck hard/Vinay bowls like him but isn't as good"- Pankaj is well over six feet in height, and powerfully built. Both Kumars (Vinay/Bucky) are well under six feet, and Shami Ahmed, shorter than Rohit Sharma. Surely that should count for something. He's not as feeble as these two, and can hit the deck a lot harder.
    • "Pankaj just tries to bowl good line and length"- Isn't that what fans would want? We've endured plenty of loose rubbish from Dinda, Ishant, and even want the decently-fast Umesh Yadav dropped because he bowls too many loose ones.
    • "Pankaj is not outstanding"- He's been amongst the top wicket-takers for three seasons in a row. Not enough?
    • "Willing to work hard and get it right"- And he's done just that, with his pace. Not blazing, but decent.

    While I do feel he's not the saviour of Indian pace bowling, he's definitely the right choice, and the best choice, right now. Admit it, you (not you in particular) want some serious pace in the Indian attack, but are too scared to persist with Umesh Yadav because of his poor line and length, and the usually accurate Bucky struggles to take wickets, and when things don't work out for him, struggles to survive. Picking Pankaj in the frontline may not be a magic wand, but it is a logical move.
    Last edited by Arjun; 03-01-2014 at 08:12 AM.

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    Isn't he a lot like Abhimanyu Mithun? The bowling strategy i.e? But if domestic records have any relevance then he deserves a spot in the national team.

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