Pankaj Singh - Page 4

zorax · 07-12-2012, 04:23 AM

A lot of mediocre spinners did get picked over him TBF.

There are some other good spinners out there who were overlooked for the likes of Chauhan and such; forgetting the names now, someone did a nice article on this guy who was a pretty good spinner but never got many opportunities while they were there as the selectors didn't favour him.

morgieb · 07-12-2012, 04:34 AM

Didn't Hirwani take a 16-fer on debut but only received fleeting opportunities afterwards?

smalishah84 · 07-12-2012, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by zorax

A lot of mediocre spinners did get picked over him TBF.

There are some other good spinners out there who were overlooked for the likes of Chauhan and such; forgetting the names now, someone did a nice article on this guy who was a pretty good spinner but never got many opportunities while they were there as the selectors didn't favour him.

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Arjun · 08-12-2012, 10:21 AM

Pankaj has competition from Parvinder Awana, but with Umesh Yadav injured, Varun Aaron still injured and Ishant Sharma being woefully out of form (and Dinda being utter rubbish), I wouldn't be surprised if this Delhi-Rajasthan pair opened the bowling for India. At least here, you can usher in wholesale changes.

GingerFurball · 08-12-2012, 02:57 PM

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Whatever I've seen of him, he doesn't look Test-class.

Do India actually have anyone that fits this description at the moment, bar Ojha in home tests?

Jono · 08-12-2012, 07:47 PM

Yadav looks test class. Or very close to it.

Daemon · 09-12-2012, 12:40 AM

Our bowling probably = NZ batting atm. We keep trying to chop and change it, but in the end it all comes down to the fact that we just don't have 4 good test class bowlers.

Not saying we shouldn't bother to give ourselves the best chance by putting the best 4 forward obv.

zorax · 09-12-2012, 02:00 AM

Ashwin and Zak, when they're bowling well, are Test Class.

Contra · 09-12-2012, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by zorax

Ashwin and Zak, when they're bowling well, are Test Class.

Ashwin has a long way to go bowling wise to be considered top class IMO. His action and bowling style is better suited to the shorter formats, so he'll have to work a bit harder in tests and find a way to succeed.

centurymaker · 09-12-2012, 02:17 AM

zaheer khan is finished guys. he's what 34/35 and has been slow for the past 2 yrs and therefore ineffective.

Daemon · 09-12-2012, 02:41 AM

He's actually been faster than what he was during his brief rise to the top 5 pace bowlers in the world.

centurymaker · 09-12-2012, 03:14 AM

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He's actually been faster than what he was during his brief rise to the top 5 pace bowlers in the world.

i don't know about that

but the fact is that he did nothing in the 3 matches.

it's almost like the ponting, tendulkar discussion.

"why drop when no one better"

i personally believe they have made the right call given that zaheer is also an uncommitted player from what i have heard so is a bad influence.

Daemon · 09-12-2012, 03:19 AM

Zaheer is miles ahead of Ishant and Dinda though.

He's bowled some good probing spells in this series, don't forget he had Cook dropped on 17 before he added 120 to that as well. Dhoni just hasn't given him lengthy spells with the new ball and in general has just handled him terribly. He's unfit and isn't producing results, sure, but he's still the best pace bowler available. You always put your best XI on the park, especially in such an important game where if we lose, it'll be one of the biggest humiliations in Indian cricket history.

centurymaker · 09-12-2012, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Daemon

Zaheer is miles ahead of Ishant and Dinda though.

He's bowled some good probing spells in this series, don't forget he had Cook dropped on 17 before he added 120 to that as well. Dhoni just hasn't given him lengthy spells with the new ball and in general has just handled him terribly. He's unfit and isn't producing results, sure, but he's still the best pace bowler available.

unfit?
if that is the case then he deserved to be dropped. no room for players who are this irresponsible.

slectors have made a much needed positive statement with his axing.
now if others don't perform, they too will be thrown out.

yes ishant and dinda are worse bowlers and i hope only one of them plays.

shankar · 09-12-2012, 10:54 AM

Perhaps Pankaj Singh paid for that outburst.

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07-12-2012, 04:23 AM	#46 (permalink)
zorax First Class Debutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 880	A lot of mediocre spinners did get picked over him TBF. There are some other good spinners out there who were overlooked for the likes of Chauhan and such; forgetting the names now, someone did a nice article on this guy who was a pretty good spinner but never got many opportunities while they were there as the selectors didn't favour him.

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Jono Request Your Custom Title Now! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virat Kohli Posts: 47,501	Yadav looks test class. Or very close to it.

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Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,763	Our bowling probably = NZ batting atm. We keep trying to chop and change it, but in the end it all comes down to the fact that we just don't have 4 good test class bowlers. Not saying we shouldn't bother to give ourselves the best chance by putting the best 4 forward obv.

09-12-2012, 02:00 AM	#53 (permalink)
zorax First Class Debutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 880	Ashwin and Zak, when they're bowling well, are Test Class.

09-12-2012, 02:41 AM	#56 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,763	He's actually been faster than what he was during his brief rise to the top 5 pace bowlers in the world.

09-12-2012, 03:19 AM	#58 (permalink)
Daemon Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: . Posts: 8,763	Zaheer is miles ahead of Ishant and Dinda though. He's bowled some good probing spells in this series, don't forget he had Cook dropped on 17 before he added 120 to that as well. Dhoni just hasn't given him lengthy spells with the new ball and in general has just handled him terribly. He's unfit and isn't producing results, sure, but he's still the best pace bowler available. You always put your best XI on the park, especially in such an important game where if we lose, it'll be one of the biggest humiliations in Indian cricket history.

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