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    Prior vs Kieswetter

    Recent form of Kieswetter against Sri Lanka shows this boy has everything that one needs to be in the English team.I wonder why he was dropped even when he performed so well in the T20 WC which they won.
    I would rate him better than Prior because England was struggling with the opening pair (so much that they had to call back Cook & make him the captain straightaway!) & Kieswetter have given them a solid half of the opening pair.I believe he would be a success in tests too.
    The reason England still stick to Prior is that they don't have a choice.But now,they probably have.
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    There is no way in hell Kieswetter should play ahead of Prior in Tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    There is no way in hell Kieswetter should play ahead of Prior in Tests.
    Looking at his recent form,he should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
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    Holy god in a stick, no.

    Kieswetter is a passable ODI batsman at best whose technique would be mutilated at Test level.

    Prior is arguably the best Test wk-batsman in the world (although I wouldn't argue it myself, he's definitely up there)
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    Atleast for ODIs,Kieswetter>Prior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    Holy god in a stick, no.

    Kieswetter is a passable ODI batsman at best whose technique would be mutilated at Test level.

    Prior is arguably the best Test wk-batsman in the world (although I wouldn't argue it myself, he's definitely up there)
    Prior is the best!! What about Dhoni,Boucher,Haddin!!!!

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    I said "arguably". Prior is up there with Dhoni and Haddin (I'd pick Dhoni, given the choice).

    Boucher has regressed drastically in recent times. He's no longer in that class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anku31 View Post
    Looking at his recent form,he should.
    No, he shouldn't.

    Firstly, one day cricket and four/five cricket are not the same. Prior himself is actually a great example of this; he's a crap one day batsman and an excellent longer-form batsman. So much so that if England did play another keeper for some reason, Prior would (or should, at least) hold his place in the Test team ahead of Morgan (and probably Pietersen too, although we all know that wouldn't happen in reality). Kieswetter is the opposite - he's not very good at four-day cricket; he's massively inferior to Prior and no amount of runs in a completely different role as a pinch hitter opening the batting in one day cricket will change that (not that he even actually has a lot of those in ODIs yet, either).

    Secondly, you don't just pick your team based on 'form'. Form by its very nature is cyclical and will change erratically, so unless you want a completely different team for every match with a large amount of guesswork and no continuity, then you have to pick your team largely on proven ability and medium-term performance.

    Basically, your suggestion is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anku31 View Post
    Atleast for ODIs,Kieswetter>Prior.
    Yes, there's no doubt about that.
    There's equally little doubt that Prior should be way ahead in Tests, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    No, he shouldn't.

    Firstly, one day cricket and four/five cricket are not the same. Prior himself is actually a great example of this; he's a crap one day batsman and an excellent longer-form batsman. So much so that if England did play another keeper for some reason, Prior would (or should, at least) hold his place in the Test team ahead of Morgan (and probably Pietersen too, although we all know that wouldn't happen in reality). Kieswetter is the opposite - he's not very good at four-day cricket; he's massively inferior to Prior and no amount of runs in a completely different role as a pinch hitter opening the batting in one day cricket will change that (not that he even actually has a lot of those in ODIs yet, either).

    Secondly, you don't just pick your team based on 'form'. Form by its very nature is cyclical and will change erratically, so unless you want a completely different team for every match with a large amount of guesswork and continuity, then you have to pick your team largely on proven ability and medium-term performance.

    Basically, your suggestion is absurd
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    Quote Originally Posted by prince ews View Post
    basically, your suggestion is absurd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
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    Well there's no point babying him; he's going to see far harsher stuff than that in his time here if he stays around.

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