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*Official* West Indies in Zimbabwe Thread

garage flower

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
But at the moment he's 'tending' to score more runs than Gayle and looking better doing it.


Facts dictate that he wasn't selected for the first Test. Indeed, Ganga was and he played well. What a poor decision. :rolleyes:

I'm not the one calling to drop people. You are. Besides, it's alot more sensible to drop an out-of-form player than an in-form player.

And yet we collapse for 128 runs. With your team in trouble with the bat, who would you prefer to have at the crease? Ganga or Drakes? Admittedly Drakes would be very useful right now, but there was just as little basis to drop Ganga as there was to drop Drakes.
"Facts dictate that he wasn't selected for the first test". What do this mean? Do you mean "Samuels wasn't picked"? If so, what point are you making? I agreed with Ganga playing in the first test. It's you who mentioned Ganga's form in the warm up game as being a reason for his continued selection. I was simply stating that, on that basis, Samuels should be in the side. Sheesh!

"I'm not the one calling to drop people. You are." I was calling for Ganga to be dropped only because I felt that the balance of the team needed to be altered and that Ganga had the weakest case, of the 6 specialist bats, to be retained.

"And yet we collapse for 128 runs. With your team in trouble with the bat, who would you prefer to have at the crease? Ganga or Drakes?" Mr M, this is your silliest point to date. Even with the benefit of hindsight you're implying that we wouldn't have been better of with Drakes in for Ganga in this match. "Have a word with yourself!" as we say in my neck of the woods.

Anyway, looks like we've come through despite everything. Roll on the one dayers (and goodbye Daren Ganga).
 

garage flower

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luckyeddie said:
Do I detect a little, er, inter-island rivalry here?

West Indian selectors both if this continues.:P

No, I'm an English West Indies fan I'm afraid, so I'm exempt from any accusations of insularity.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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garage flower said:
"And yet we collapse for 128 runs. With your team in trouble with the bat, who would you prefer to have at the crease? Ganga or Drakes?" Mr M, this is your silliest point to date. Even with the benefit of hindsight you're implying that we wouldn't have been better of with Drakes in for Ganga in this match. "Have a word with yourself!" as we say in my neck of the woods.
Ultimately it was the West Indian batting which got us in trouble. A decent second innings effort and we wouldn't have had to produce the inspired bowling performance which we did. Answer the question and prove me wrong. With your team in trouble, who would you prefer to have batting?
 

garage flower

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Mr Mxyzptlk said:
Ultimately it was the West Indian batting which got us in trouble. A decent second innings effort and we wouldn't have had to produce the inspired bowling performance which we did. Answer the question and prove me wrong. With your team in trouble, who would you prefer to have batting?
I would rather have had Drakes in the team because, as I've already pointed out, I think he would have knocked at least 50 runs off Zim's 1st innings total. I maintain that West Indies nearly lost the game by allowing Zim to make too many runs in the 1st innings.

And who would I prefer to have batting in a pressure situation? Well, based on his performance in Antigua, under the most intense pressure imaginable, Drakes didn't do a bad job. So I'd be happy enough with big Vas.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
garage flower said:
The 165 was a long time ago. Since then, he's had good series in Australia and India (doesn't get much harder than that) opening the batting.
A good Test each in Australia and India, not good series'.
He only opened once in Australia, because Ganga was injured for the Fifth Test (I'd have droppd him anyway; Gayle should have been picked), and he got a 100 in the Third Test in India.
 

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Richard said:
I'd have droppd him anyway; Gayle should have been picked
Gayle was not available for selection for that tour due to disciplinary action being taken against him.
 

Craig

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But didnt Gayle to the Australian Cricket Acadmay for some technical advice?

As the ODI team been announced yet?
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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The ODI team is the same as the Test team minus Banks and Ganga and plus Ricardo Powell. Very disappointed not to see Hurley there.
 

Craig

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128 run win for the men from the Caribbean. Charles picking up the man of the match award for his 191, although Raymond William Price can consider himelf unlucky not to ge the MOTM award, he is improving with the bat and the ball.

Surely he would have got the Man of the Series award if it was given.

The man from Angullia picked up 3 for 35 and was the leading wicketer in the Zimbabwe 2nd innings and a decent time with the bat from Merv.

DD should find a way to honour this bloke from Zimbabwe (Price)
 
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garage flower

State Vice-Captain
Mr Mxyzptlk said:
The ODI team is the same as the Test team minus Banks and Ganga and plus Ricardo Powell. Very disappointed not to see Hurley there.
Me too. Are they too skint to pay for his plane ticket?

My team and batting order for the one-dayers:

Gayle
Chanderpaul
Hinds
Lara
Sarwan
Samuels
Powell
Baugh/Jacobs - alternate
Dillon
Taylor
Collymore

Still not convinced about the 3 specialist bowlers policy and I thought Powell was embarrasing in the World Cup on the 2 occasions that he was required to build an innings (NZ, SL). Still, he's fun to watch and shouldn't need to do more than slog for a few overs in this series.

I would rotate the bowlers with Rampaul, Edwards (if fit) and Drakes all getting a couple of games.

Any thoughts?
 

luckyeddie

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Craig said:

DD should find a way to honour this bloke from Zimbabwe (Price)
<quack>

If he injures himself shampooing his hair, is exposed as a thimble-collector or train-spotter or indeed if he starts wearing silly glasses like Daniel Vettori (preferably with attached false nose - like Daniel Vettori) then he's got a chance.

If, however, he continues to be good, there is little chance of the ultimate accolade, an interview with the duck or a special appearance in the diary.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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garage flower said:
Me too. Are they too skint to pay for his plane ticket?

My team and batting order for the one-dayers:

Gayle
Chanderpaul
Hinds
Lara
Sarwan
Samuels
Powell
Baugh/Jacobs - alternate
Dillon
Taylor
Collymore

Still not convinced about the 3 specialist bowlers policy and I thought Powell was embarrasing in the World Cup on the 2 occasions that he was required to build an innings (NZ, SL). Still, he's fun to watch and shouldn't need to do more than slog for a few overs in this series.

I would rotate the bowlers with Rampaul, Edwards (if fit) and Drakes all getting a couple of games.

Any thoughts?
I think Hinds should open in ODI's. He provides a quick start and has had success there of late. Also, I don't agree with playing 3 bowlers unless we have a quality allrounder, which we don't. As such, I would play Drakes, Dillon, Taylor, Collymore initially with Edwards returning if there is a loss of form. Rampaul shouldn't be let near the West Indies senior side... yet.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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luckyeddie said:
If he injures himself shampooing his hair, is exposed as a thimble-collector or train-spotter or indeed if he starts wearing silly glasses like Daniel Vettori (preferably with attached false nose - like Daniel Vettori) then he's got a chance.
:lol:
 

Craig

World Traveller
luckyeddie said:
<quack>

If he injures himself shampooing his hair, is exposed as a thimble-collector or train-spotter or indeed if he starts wearing silly glasses like Daniel Vettori (preferably with attached false nose - like Daniel Vettori) then he's got a chance.

If, however, he continues to be good, there is little chance of the ultimate accolade, an interview with the duck or a special appearance in the diary.
Well when he was younger he had problems with his ears that he nearly went deaf, lost his balance and to learn to walk again, it wasnt good for him and oh I think he nearly died somewhere in between.
 

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