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    So exactly how was this calculated? Can we know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    What do you mean by 'rating at a minimum'. Yeah Ponting would have dipped a little recently.
    As in those are the two cricketers who come to mind instantly who are (over the course of their careers) excellent converters, but other names haven't come to mind straight away yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Ya it's fun for the sake of it. I remember doing one for spinners which had Stuart Clark as the second best spinner of all time or something.

    Actually I made like six or seven of these statistical threads back then. Ah to be bored.
    C'mon he is a bit slowish ,but that is stretching it a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by TumTum View Post
    So exactly how was this calculated? Can we know?
    Yes. I used my Casio to calculate it..

    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    As in those are the two cricketers who come to mind instantly who are (over the course of their careers) excellent converters, but other names haven't come to mind straight away yet.
    Yeah and the thing with Cook is that he rarely makes a duck. Getting out for 0 regularly does not help a few people in my rankings and nor should it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TumTum View Post
    So exactly how was this calculated? Can we know?
    Batsman got different points for each time they reached a 'landmark'. Batsman who narrowly missed out on 'landmarks' were punished a bit which could explain someone like Steve Waugh who had a habit of making scores in the 90s, seem a little low on the list.

    Batsman who made high not outs were only rated on their actual innings output, not what might have been.

    Scores considered 'neither here nor there' were excluded from the calculations as they didn't impact on the match in a positive or negative way. Of course this is debatable are you will find instances when a score of 34 coming in at 3/4 chasing 104 is a positive contribution compared to making 34 in a score of 5/542 dec, but so be it, I felt like I had to draw a line in the sand somewhere.

    Batsman who failed to get off the mark did not go too well. Conversely those who frequently troubled the scorers did well. You might consider 1&51 the same as 0&52 - In this exercise 1&51 was rated higher.

    That's about all really.,

    Are there any players that seem surprisingly high or low, perhaps compared with other ranking lists that you've seen?

    Kanhai, Azharuddin and Richie Richardson stand out, but it's kind of refreshing IMO to see a few different names do well.

    Of course the absolute best always manage to find a way to be right up the top, I can't believe Bradman is again over double his nearest rival.

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    How about one for all 2/3000+ players currently playing?

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    Azhar had a great 50-to-100 conversion rate IIRC. But yeah, it's weird to see him ahead of Steve Waugh, Border, Inzamam, Crowe etc. to name a few.

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    Spark, if you provide a list I can work them out for you if you like. I definitely think it works better over a full career though. If anyone wants to find out about any batsman just let me know.

    vcs, yeah Azhar had an awesome conversion rate, shame for him that he never did reach 200.

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    interesting to note that in the list of retired players Javed Miandad edges out Greg Chappell. Always felt that Miandad is under rated
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    sangakkara cook superior to lara, gavaskar, richards, tendulkar, dravid, ponting, sehwag?
    wut?
    also hayden better than richards? no man, no.

    and yea sangakkara is rated far too highly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miscer View Post
    sangakkara cook superior to lara, gavaskar, richards, tendulkar, dravid, ponting, sehwag?
    wut?
    also hayden better than richards? no man, no.

    and yea sangakkara is rated far too highly.
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    I don't think it should be suggested for a moment that this is precisely indicative of a player's quality/greatness, so I think we should leave that aside from the outset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
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    then it's pointless to make such a list i mean what is it supposed to be indicative of then? How high particular batsman are on the list itself lol? That means nothing.

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    Read the thread.

    NUFAN, could you try Clarke, Katich, Watson, Hussey?
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    Good stuff.

    Don't agree with Cook > Punter though.
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    If it's weighted towards conversion as I suspect, than given especially their career evolutions in the last three-four years, I can definitely see Cook being rated above Ponting.

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