fair enough. it is just that, at his peak, he was a wrecking ball of a bowler. just unbelievable. perhaps that has clouded my judgement. i also feel that i have warne a little low. again, perhaps his performances against the indians - in my opinion, the best players of spin of the past couple of decades - has again clouded my judgement. though i would still, more often than not, have warne in my 11 over murali.
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Rank your Top 20 Bowlers of the modern era
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akram and pollock. yes, again u guys are right.
i made a crap list. sorry! but i will say that pollock was quite underrated. at his best he was the only competition for murali at the top of the rankings. always hovering around the late 800s and early 900s range....at least that's what i remember.
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I copy pasted and made minor modifications (didn't watch Kapil etc.). Never thought anyone would find out.
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Because vcs is too lazy a person to write down 20 names...copied my list and made changes wherever he felt necessary, I guess
Agent Nationaux
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Why has Salman put Gul in his top 20, and that before Asif aswell.
But for me Waqar will always be no 1.
But for me Waqar will always be no 1.
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Wouldn't disagree. As talented as any bowler in last 20 years just only fit for 1 game every 6 months sadly.
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Yeah. That's not unreasonable by any stretch.
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Steyn yeah, Donald, Pollock no way IMO (I'm a huge fan of Kumble BTW
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Forgot Stuart McGill. He should replace Harbhajan there. I think I can roughly divide these bowlers in the following tiers:
First Tier: Muralitharan, McGrath, Wasim, Ambrose, Donald, Warne, Steyn
Second Tier: Waqar, Pollock
Third Tier: Walsh, Kapil, Kumble
Fourth Tier: Bishop, Bond, Akhtar
Fifth Tier: Saqlain, Vaas, Gillespie, McDermott, McGill
5 Australians, 4 Pakistanis, 3 South Africans, 3 West Indians, 2 Sri Lankans, 2 Indians and 1 Kiwi in my list.
England has had good bowling attacks in the last 10 years or so, but they've generally had a bunch of good bowlers bowling together rather than an excellent bowler leading the attack for long.
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u are agreeing with me, i hope, burgey? that it is surprising to have kumble above those three. my sarcasm filters are generally not in working order without a few cups of caffe.
ooops. it was your post that i was questioning, to begin to with! ignore the first part of it.
so, why is it not unreasonable to have kumble above those 3 (ok, those 2)?
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Longevity forms part of it.
I mean, Walsh, with all due respect to him was a fine bowler, but his greatest attribute was he was an Iron Man. And partly it's to do with how people go against your own mob. Kumble had a wonderful series here in 03-04, I really thought he was very, very good.
I really included Pollock based on what most others see in him, which was naughty. I frankly think he was good to very good, but not better than Kumble. TBH I think he's a bit over rated. Again though, you see these things through the prism of his performances against your own team. Likewise Donald, who bowled some terrific spells but I kind of never thought he'd consistently run through the Australian line up he bowled to.
It's also why I will never be able to rate Waqar above Akram. People say Waqar wasn't at his best when he came here, and that may well be so, but that's part of greatness too - durability and consistency of output. It's even more a factor for me when I begin to think of how to separate bowlers of this calibre.
I fear I've not explained this very well at all, but there you go.
