While Imran may not be a certainty in an all time eleven there was no need to make up false claims like Imran did not bowl a lot since Wasim came in. Such blanket statements without proof end up making you look like a fool (not far off the mark though)
Which resulted in huge number of not-outs and hence higher batting average. So you basically proved my point that Imran khan was never good enough to bat higher than 6 . So he is not the second -best all - rounder.Because he came in at number 7 and number 8 throughout most of his career. I don't think that is too difficult to understand
And look at Sobers bowling SR of 92 for his career.From 1985-87 Hadlee was the best all-rounder. Go and check rankings.
So if imran is bowling quite a bit then why his all-rounder rating never came above 500 for more than 7 months in 12 years.
He was never consistent enough with bat as well as bowl at the same time as compared to sobers, kallis and Miller.And this is reflected in rating points over 12 years.
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No I didn't. Pakistan batting was already strong enough during that time that Imran could not bat higher up the order AND he was never supposed to be an opener in any case
Which 1986 series are you talking about?????So basically when bowling-condition were tough he did not use to bowl. As this was case in sub-continent in 1986 and 1989 series. :
And no Imran was not a very selfish player. He would use bowlers who would win him the matches rather than try and hog the limelight by putting himself in and not winning the match. That is what happened in the 1987 series in India in the final matchSo basically when bowling-condition were tough he did not use to bowl. As this was case in sub-continent in 1986 and 1989 series. :
Have you checked the average of Pakistan batsman outside Pakistan ?No I didn't. Pakistan batting was already strong enough during that time that Imran could not bat higher up the order AND he was never supposed to be an opener in any case
Against India he did not bowl much because the situation didn't require it. So his tactics paod off and India were beaten in any caseHave you checked the average of Pakistan batsman outside Pakistan ?
And i am talking about series in India.
..........why fix it when it ain't broke. In fact pretty decent batting average almost everywhereBatting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN CricinfoAgainst India he did not bowl much because the situation didn't require it. So his tactics paod off and India were beaten in any case
what about Pakistani batsmen average outside Pakistan???? Just checked Imran's batting average in India where it is almost 40 and in NZ where it is 67
Batting records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
Of course God was helping Pakistan back then because that is why Pakistan was the second best team in the 80s after WI
Sambit Bal: Sehwag more destructive than Richards | Opinion | Cricinfo Magazine | ESPN Cricinfoyeah thanks for digging up that article VCS............
maybe sehwag_fan can read it
And what happened when neutral umpire were introduced is known to everyone.Of course God was helping Pakistan back then because that is why Pakistan was the second best team in the 80s after WI
Still beat India in India and England in England without the neutral umpiresAnd what happened when neutral umpire were introduced is known to everyone.
Yeah, but that is balanced out by the fact that Hadlee had less support (Imran had Wasim and Qadir), more burden to shoulder, and took more wickets/match, and more 5WI/10WM. A bit of an average rise in that scenario is acceptable. Hadlee is not as good as Imran with the bat overall, but in that period he still has nearly as many runs, equal number of 50s and 2 centuries to Imran's 4. Purely as bowlers, I would probably go Marshall > Hadlee > Imran, though obviously the margins are extremely fine.
