not sure that peak rating is the best way to judge a player's quality. on that criterion, tendulkar, lara et al would be trumped by pietersen in all time 11s! i don't have the exact peak ratings but u catch my drift....
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Sobers came below 500 points for only 1.5 year in his 12 years career.
Even Botham and Kallis have rating of above 500 points for 3 years.
Pietersen was above lara and Sachin for only few months. Sobers was above Imran by a long margin for 10 years.
Check the graph
Even Kallis is better all rounder than Imran
And Keith Miller marginal better than Imran
Imran never performed consistently with bat and ball at same time as compared to Sobers, kallis and Miller.
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Aus - bradman,warne,mcgrath
Wi - sobers,viv/marshall,lara/ambrose
Sl - Murali,snagakkara,de silva.
Nz- hadlee,martin crowe,bond.
eng -Barnes, Botham,hutton,
All rounder's ratings can suffer if your bowling and batting peaks don't coincide. Better to look at peak batting and bowling ratings. I suspect Imran will suffer there too because he was not batting as often as some who batted higher up the order did. You can't ignore his batting average in last 10 years or so, though. Around 50, and in those times, is tremendous.
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And how can you be termed great all-rounder if you are not batting and bowling well simultaneously.
Imran khan had become a support bowler to Wasim in last 6 years of his career. He concentrated purely on batting.
If today Sachin stops batting and concentrate on bowling and takes 70-80 wickets in 4 to 5 years , he won't be termed all-rounder.
Keith Miller | Cricket Players and Officials | ESPN Cricinfo
Sure enough they are different but not that different really. Why then does Miller have such a low wicket per match ratio????
And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW
Yeah we don't crap in the first world; most of us would actually have no idea what that was emanating from Ajmal's backside. Why isn't it roses and rainbows like what happens here? PEWS's retort to Ganeshran on Daemon's picture depicting Ajmal's excreta
Since you were using peak ratings here is Imran's peak bowling rating # 3 in the all time bowlers list
Reliance ICC Player Rankings
And yes if for the next 5 years Tendulkar can bat like he is batting and get 100+ wickets at an average of less than 25 then I would say that he is an all rounder and VERY good all rounder at that.
He said "if he stops" batting tbf. It's an interesting question, can you really call someone an allrounder if they're good at both disciplines over the course of their career, but never at the same time? Ie. always good at one of batting or bowling at any point in their career, but not both?
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When did Kallis perform so well simultaneously with the ball and bat????
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