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    Originally posted by marc71178
    5 an over is in a lot of cases well below the average scoring rates in one day cricket. To go for 5 an over is not bad, and can be acceptable in any score over 250 from 50 overs.



    Only 0.1? that seems a very tight thing, and your suggesting if someone bowls 5 of the last 10 overs, they should only concede an extra half run than they did in the first 5 they bowled!

    I think you should AT LEAST 1 an over on.
    Too much thought about individual games. A decent bowling-attack should be disappointed to concede 250 (on any pitch) anyway, but just to have the mentality "250 is a decent score - less than 5-an-over is good" is misreading. Any bowler with a career economy-rate of 5-an-over is very, very poor indeed.
    When I talk about 0.1-an-over and 0.2-an-over I mean in a career, and in a career that's a lot. The difference between 4.3-an-over and 4.4-an-over after 100 ODIs is massive.
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    Hey! Richard what do you think of Ajit Agarkar?

    what the hell is going on?
    in all of london/manchester i have never met more than about 5 sensible 14-20 yr olds and here bucketloads who actually know what they are talking about...
    ofcourse then there is marc who is 24 and a little crazy and childish

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    Originally posted by gibbsnsmith
    Hey! Richard what do you think of Ajit Agarkar?

    what the hell is going on?
    in all of london/manchester i have never met more than about 5 sensible 14-20 yr olds and here bucketloads who actually know what they are talking about...
    ofcourse then there is marc who is 24 and a little crazy and childish
    Actually I thought Agarkar was a good bowler for a long while, I kept thinking "he can get that economy-rate down, he can" but I kept being confounded. I have more or less given-up hope on him.

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    well, you may as well know, so did i

    but every since i found out AAAS[agit agarkar appreiation socety]
    my hopes in him have fallen dismally, they [aaas] think he is a great allrounder like Kapil Dev..So i laughed Anti-AAAS, nothing against agarkar himslef just the tits who stalk him...


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    You misinterpret the AAAS, Jay :P

    Regarding economies of 5 an over - look at the India v WI one-day series. Keeping it down to 5 an over would have been a wonderful achievement there.

    Look at Balaji's figures..
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    Originally posted by Richard
    Too much thought about individual games. A decent bowling-attack should be disappointed to concede 250 (on any pitch) anyway, but just to have the mentality "250 is a decent score - less than 5-an-over is good" is misreading.
    How many sides concede 250 in an ODI? Most. Therefore 5 is not as bad as you make out.


    Originally posted by Richard
    When I talk about 0.1-an-over and 0.2-an-over I mean in a career, and in a career that's a lot. The difference between 4.3-an-over and 4.4-an-over after 100 ODIs is massive.
    IF someone bowls 10 overs a game, the difference over a career is still only 100 runs in 100 ODI's.

    That is nothing.

    A misfield gives the extra 0.1.
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    Originally posted by gibbsnsmith
    they [aaas] think he is a great allrounder like Kapil Dev.
    If you bothered to follow the history of the AAAS, you'd realise what it's all about.

    We do not think he's a great player at all!

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    i know what its about and it aint far cos hes not THAT bad but youre just maing a mockery of his name

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    I fail to see how our praising of him is making a mockery?

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    you know very well how!

    *sighs* kids these days...

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    If you were around 18 months ago, you'd know where we are coming from.

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    too bad, eh...

    But what i dont get, is that its still carrying on arent you bored yet?

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    Originally posted by gibbsnsmith
    too bad, eh...

    But what i dont get, is that its still carrying on arent you bored yet?
    Marc doesn't get bored easily. He's a Giles fan.
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    still!

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    Originally posted by marc71178
    How many sides concede 250 in an ODI? Most. Therefore 5 is not as bad as you make out.




    IF someone bowls 10 overs a game, the difference over a career is still only 100 runs in 100 ODI's.

    That is nothing.

    A misfield gives the extra 0.1.
    Recently there have been far too many 250s, and more. The standard of bowling in one-day-international-cricket has denegrated in the last 4 years.
    For a good bowler, 100 runs is a massive amount. A good bowler should be aiming for 40 or less from 10 overs.
    Perhaps one of the reasons totals have increased is bowlers have been encouraged to settle for mediocrity.

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