View Poll Results: Who will be the Best Test Batsman?

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  • Subramaniam Badrinath

    3 4.92%
  • Cheteshwar Pujara

    28 45.90%
  • Virat Kohli

    23 37.70%
  • Rohit Sharma

    1 1.64%
  • Suresh Raina

    1 1.64%
  • Saurabh Tiwary

    0 0%
  • Murali Vijay

    0 0%
  • Ajinkya Rahane

    3 4.92%
  • Abhinav Mukund

    0 0%
  • Manish Pandey

    1 1.64%
  • Manoj Tiwary

    1 1.64%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    Bhuvi can definitely bat, but when you've got Ashwin and Dhoni in the top seven abroad you're going to want a bit more than that at 8, especially when the entire top order is really inexperienced in the conditions and all of 9-11 are going to be gash. I really just don't think Ojha offers significantly more with the ball than Jadeja either, particularly when it's not really turning. If they're going to go with the whole "play five bowlers, two of which are spinners" thing then I think Jadeja absolutely has to play. I can get behind the argument for Jadeja to be relegated to eight in that situation but I just really think he'd be needed for balance if they were only going to play five batsmen.

    .. which is basically why I just straight up wouldn't be going with that idea in South Africa. I doubt a lot is to be gained from two spinners in South Africa anyway, and with Dhoni likely to be completely incompetent with the bat in those conditions I think the meat and potatoes option of their six best batsmen, their best keeper/batsman, their best spinner and their best three quicks is really the way to go.
    You just know they're going to include Jadeja or Raina in that best six bats though....
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    Hey Ganguly learnt to deal with the short stuff in the final 1-2 years in his career. There is still hope for Raina. He just needs to stop attacking short bowling and needs to let more balls go instead of poking at everything. But no selecting the **** now will be so bad.

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    He doesn't attack short bowling, he pokes and prods at it, but otherwise yeah I agree there is always hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximas View Post
    Is Dhoni really that inadequate at no 7 outside the SC? Honestly, India are gonna need all their bowlers and all their batsmen, pick six batsmen, 4 bowlers and Dhoni to keep, specialists doing their job is what will win you matches IMO
    I think people have memories of the 4-0 4-0 series in mind when they say that about Dhoni, where he seemed to have invented a unique and highly efficient way of getting the ball from bat to slip/gully as quickly as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I think people have memories of the 4-0 4-0 series in mind when they say that about Dhoni, where he seemed to have invented a unique and highly efficient way of getting the ball from bat to slip/gully as quickly as possible.
    Ugh, bottom handed hard poke which goes to slip on balls slightly deviating away from the off stump line. You can count on it again. He showed he still does it in Mumbai. He will do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I think people have memories of the 4-0 4-0 series in mind when they say that about Dhoni, where he seemed to have invented a unique and highly efficient way of getting the ball from bat to slip/gully as quickly as possible.
    It's because he tries to play like a proper batsman. I honestly think he'd be better off just having a slog... Just rely on his power and eye. He did exactly that in one of the drubbing in England and got 50s in both innings. IIRC it was the match where Dravid didn't score a hundred
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    You just know they're going to include Jadeja or Raina in that best six bats though....
    Well they played Jaddu behind Dhoni...if a ****house batsman like Dhoni can play ahead of you, what does that stay about your own batting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OverratedSanity View Post
    It's because he tries to play like a proper batsman. I honestly think he'd be better off just having a slog... Just rely on his power and eye. He did exactly that in one of the drubbing in England and got 50s in both innings. IIRC it was the match where Dravid didn't score a hundred
    I believe what you're suggesting is that Dhoni bat like Matt Prior

    If you can call what Prior does as 'batting' (more like 'slogging' )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shri View Post
    Hey Ganguly learnt to deal with the short stuff in the final 1-2 years in his career. There is still hope for Raina. He just needs to stop attacking short bowling and needs to let more balls go instead of poking at everything. But no selecting the **** now will be so bad.
    He's also atrocious versus spin. His Ranji record is also highly mediocre. He'd need to put in 2 or 3 amazing Ranji seasons in addition to sorting out his short-ball and spin issues for me to think he's better than so many players I rate ahead of him.

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    Rayudu / Rahane should be the next to get a go in the batting lineup, imo unless they want to go to someone new like Juneja or the forgotten Badrinath which is unlikely. Rahane being first in line.

    Gambhir will probably end up going to South Africa as 3rd choice opener too.

    Just hope they don't go back to Raina/Yuvraj again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    Rayudu / Rahane should be the next to get a go in the batting lineup, imo unless they want to go to someone new like Juneja or the forgotten Badrinath which is unlikely. Rahane being first in line.

    Gambhir will probably end up going to South Africa as 3rd choice opener too.

    Just hope they don't go back to Raina/Yuvraj again.
    They'd be better off using Pujara as a backup opener to slot in Rahane if/when Vijay fails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spark View Post
    I think people have memories of the 4-0 4-0 series in mind when they say that about Dhoni, where he seemed to have invented a unique and highly efficient way of getting the ball from bat to slip/gully as quickly as possible.
    His past record in South Africa isn't that bad though. Averaging 31 in 5 tests.

    Did decently last series too IIRC at some crucial junctures.


    He can bat at 7 there if India go with 4 bowlers. I think that combination works best too, as Jadeja is neither here nor there in foreign conditions. Not sure he can play as much more than a Specialist bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JontyPanesar View Post
    They'd be better off using Pujara as a backup opener to slot in Rahane if/when Vijay fails.
    Rahane/Another Middle order bat will probably play anyway, i think as i can't see Dhoni going with 5 bowlers in SA unless there is a flat wicket or a slow spinning track for some reason.

    Gambhir has made some Ranji runs now, did well last tour in SA. Very likely he'll be back.

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    Of all the dumped older Indian players Gambhir is probably the one I'd be least unhappy about returning
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    I would straight up get Gambhir back in for Vijay. Even when Gambhir got dropped it very much felt like they'd dropped him due to extended poor form so he could get his game together away from international cricket, rather than dropping him because they thought he was finished (ala Zaheer, Sehwag and Harbhajan). Definitely one of India's best six batsmen IMO.
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