Parthiv Patel also debuted at 16 BTW. That went well.
List of youngest debutants -
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/con...ds/209994.html
Except Sachin and then Sobers none of them went that well.
Last edited by Cevno; 05-04-2011 at 08:55 AM.
And what did he average against them? In the 30s, right?
It happens here and there, players have impressive starts but it is simply far from the norm to be one of the best players on debut, especially at the age of 20. It took Tendulkar a while to truly become what he became, in both formats, and "a glimpse of ability" is not what we are discussing here.
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Nice trolling Ikki..
Chck up atleast his stats before resorting to such stuff. He averaged 45 after his first 25 tests, even before turning 20!
No, he didn't have to play bangaldesh or zimbabwe to do that either. and in the 80s and early 90s, 45 was an average which was not considered just great, but brilliant.
Actually the chance of suffering a loss of confidence and losing your game and all skills not getting developed as they should under pressure are more likely to happen because of debuting earlier than acclimatising due to starting early.
Irfan Pathan , Parthiv Patel,laxman sivaramakrishnan and Piyush Chawla are classic examples in India alone.
At the same time due to money,attention and fame you could go astray too . Not too mention how it affects the motivation and desire when you are 38 to keep at the top and the toll it takes on the body and mind.
Here is another example of why citing a large gap in international hundreds as proof of significant superiority is flawed
Batting records | Combined Test, ODI and T20I records | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo
This is the end of the Aus 07-08 season. Ponting has 60 international hundreds, Tendulkar has 81. At the time, who would I have called the greater batsman? Ponting. Have I changed my view since? Yes. Would a lot of people have agreed with me at the time? Yes. Yet Tendulkar has 21 more hundreds. So it's not even inarguable that Tendulkar is the best, let alone that he is significantly better - at the time. So what does that tell you about the "he has many more hundreds" argument? It tells me that it isn't that significant, after all, a lot of quite good players have less than 21 international hundreds.
EDIT: Cevno, that's precisely why Tendulkar would not have debuted at 16 here.
Last edited by Spark; 05-04-2011 at 09:01 AM.
do you think people will be allowed to make violins?
who's going to make the violins?
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What in the hell does that mean? Ponting has been pretty much an ever-present since his debut. The reason he isn't closer is because Tendulkar has played more - yes, because he debuted at 16 whereas Ponting debuted at 20.
Hanif?
Harbhajan?
Mushtaq Mohammad?
Waqar?
Wasim?
Imran Khan?
Chandra?
Saqlain?
If anything that list demonstrates the point brought up earlier. Lots of the names there are from the subcontinent. There are only 2 Australians: Garrett who debuted in 1877 and Craig in 1953.
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