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    Associate nations be given the chance to play the Test nations more regularly in bilateral ODI series, or triangular tournaments?

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    Because wins like these won't happen everytime.Once in a blue moon perhaps.For most part,they'll be everyone's whipping boys.Despite the performances put in by Netherlands and Ireland this time,they're still a tier below Bangladesh,who are the weakest Test Nation out there.Plus,the boards arranging the bilateral series might not want associate nations involved since the matches would not generate a lot of revenue.Money talks.

    Also,the cricket calender is already jampacked.Arranging bilateral tournament/series with Test Playing Nations would almost certainly mean that the test nation would send in a second string team,or atleast play witha second string team when they face an associate.This can be seen by how seriously test nations take series against Bangladesh.Matches against associates would be taken even more non-seriously.They'll pull off a shocker on a good day,but that's it.Not worth it IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Because what happened today must never be allowed to happen again.

    Wouldn't have happened if Luke Wright was playing
    Funnily enough, thierry henry(cw member) said the exact same thing when England won the t20 wc.


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    The test nations could send their second or third string teams, though. That would make the games more competitive, plus some of the lesser known players from the established sides would get some international exposure. Win-win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    Associate nations be given the chance to play the Test nations more regularly in bilateral ODI series, or triangular tournaments?
    Apart from Ireland and the Dutch. Kenya and Canada has been Dismal. I was an advocate of the 10 team format. But with this, I think the top two associates should play games more regualrly with the Test nations.. That is the only way they will improve.

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    Heard Boycs on radio today saying that a better way for qualification would be to take the bottom 2 top tier sides and place them in a qualifier with the minnows and then the 4 or so places are taken by the best sides from there for the World Cup. Makes a bit of sense i guess as the minnows get to play a bigger team and also it cuts out the weaker sides like Kenya from getting smashed all the time.

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    How would you guys rank the minnows ? I'd have Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands as the best. None of the others are worth mentioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze 18 View Post
    How would you guys rank the minnows ? I'd have Ireland, Zimbabwe and Netherlands as the best. None of the others are worth mentioning.
    Would add Afghanistan to the list myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shri View Post
    Would add Afghanistan to the list myself.
    Good pick. I forgot Afghanistan.

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    Hit the thread button from outside expecting this to be a Why can't we all get along? thread, was making myself popcorn too. Disappointed tstl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Hit the thread button from outside expecting this to be a Why can't we all get along? thread, was making myself popcorn too. Disappointed tstl.
    Just wait till someone mentions England to Blaze's question in post #8, and expect the fireworks to go off.

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    I am seriously coming round to the idea of Ireland being granted Full Member status. Perhaps not test status yet, but full member, and then rather like Zimbabwe's current full-member-but-not-test-playing position, can be eased into playing tests, starting with home matches or small series against Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and mid-table opposition.

    Previously, the key hurdle for me was that Ireland does not have its own first class domestic structure. But I'm starting to question whether or not this matters all that much. After all, they do not have a List A structure either - their players all play county cricket. And given that the County Championship is some of the highest standard first-class cricket in the world, players with county contracts are coming from the same base as many test cricketers. Surely, with respect, it's a higher standard than you could expect to see in Bangladeshi domestic cricket?

    So while I would accept a few arguments against this - perhaps you feel there is not enough enthusiasm for the sport within Ireland, or perhaps you feel Bangladesh aren't an apprpriate yardstick as they were introduced too early - I certainly feel it's something worth talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teja. View Post
    Hit the thread button from outside expecting this to be a Why can't we all get along? thread, was making myself popcorn too. Disappointed tstl.
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