"No i will not have any trouble facing Marshall."

[Prince EWS]

How did this become a McGrath tribute thread? Just because McGrath aged better (which is debatable anyway because their careers were of similar duration) doesn't make him a better bowler than Marshall. Not in Tests, anyway. And Tendulkar didn't face Marshall in Tests in any case.

Whoosh.

 

[centurymaker]

YouTube - Imran Khan-Sachin-Wasim Akram Ind-Pak Peace

Does anybody know anything about this MCC and ROW match???? Sachin is just awesome clobbering around the likes of Donald and McGrath in the match in this video.........

From 5.40 onwards it's tendulakr playing the best shots you'll ever see...

 

[vcs]

Whoosh.

 

[G.I.Joe]

How did this become a McGrath tribute thread? Just because McGrath aged better (which is debatable anyway because their careers were of similar duration) doesn't make him a better bowler than Marshall. Not in Tests, anyway. And Tendulkar didn't face Marshall in Tests in any case.

It became a McGrath tribute thread because people were using Marshall's supposed decline as some sort of excuse. And McGrath is indeed a better bowler than Marshall.

 

[vcs]

It became a McGrath tribute thread because people were using Marshall's supposed decline as some sort of excuse. And McGrath is indeed a better bowler than Marshall.

In your opinion. (by bowler, I mean Test bowler)

 

[stephen]

How did this become a McGrath tribute thread? Just because McGrath aged better (which is debatable anyway because their careers were of similar duration) doesn't make him a better bowler than Marshall. Not in Tests, anyway. And Tendulkar didn't face Marshall in Tests in any case.

All threads should be McGrath tribute threads.

Those that aren't should be Warne tribute threads that descend into becoming McGrath tribute threads.

See SS's sig.

 

[G.I.Joe]

In your opinion. (by bowler, I mean Test bowler)

Are you suggesting that my opinion carries less weight than any other?

Why make the qualification otherwise?

 

[G.I.Joe]

All threads should be McGrath tribute threads.

Those that aren't should be Warne tribute threads that descend into becoming McGrath tribute threads.

See SS's sig.

lol Warne

 

[smash84]

From 5.40 onwards it's tendulakr playing the best shots you'll ever see...

absolutely awesome innings from Sachin against such top quality bowling.....does somebody have the full inning??

 

[vcs]

Are you suggesting that my opinion carries less weight than any other?

Not at all.

Why make the qualification otherwise?

Because it's close enough for it to come down to personal preference and your post didn't seem to get that across. I'd say there are more arguments in favour of Marshall than McGrath personally, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who feels the opposite.

 

[centurymaker]

Not at all.



Because it's close enough for it to come down to personal preference and your post didn't seem to get that across. I'd say there are more arguments in favour of Marshall than McGrath personally, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who feels the opposite.

How much did Marshall swing the ball?

 

[G.I.Joe]

Not at all.



Because it's close enough for it to come down to personal preference and your post didn't seem to get that across. I'd say there are more arguments in favour of Marshall than McGrath personally, but I wouldn't argue with anyone who feels the opposite.

In your opinion.

There are more rose tinted glass arguments in favour of Marshall, IMO. McGrath was the best at dismissing the best batsmen of the opposition and carried on for longer. I'm not letting a few decimal points and speedometer readings get in the way of rating him the greatest ever. Its always amusing how the pitches turn into bowlers' paradises when discussing the 80's batsmen, but not when discussing the 80s bowlers. Vive la nostalgia.

 

[centurymaker]

One thing is for sure, there hasn't been a more accurate bowler than McGrath!

 

[Teja.]

Will be fun to see how Murali's test stats look like when only his best 10-11 year period(About as big a career as McG or Marshall) is considered, in the very same 'batting paradise' period tbh.

By a decent margin the best bowler of the post-Bradman era, IMO.

 

[vcs]

How much did Marshall swing the ball?

Dunno, didn't watch him.

In your opinion.

There are more rose tinted glass arguments in favour of Marshall, IMO. McGrath was the best at dismissing the best batsmen of the opposition and carried on for longer. I'm not letting a few decimal points and speedometer readings get in the way of rating him the greatest ever. Its always amusing how the pitches turn into bowlers' paradises when discussing the 80's batsmen, but not when discussing the 80s bowlers. Vive la nostalgia.

McGrath didn't carry on for longer, he played more Tests in the same duration, yes.

But yes, McGrath's 2000s record is certainly a big feather in his cap, just like Marshall's superior SR and the completeness of his armoury is a plus point for him.

 

[Cevno]

Yeah, they do One of the reasons why McGrath > Marsha.

But then some people start playing international cricket at a earlier age.

20 vs 23.

One of the reasons why Marshall > Mcgrath.

 

[G.I.Joe]

Dunno, didn't watch him.



McGrath didn't carry on for longer, he played more Tests in the same duration, yes.

But yes, McGrath's 2000s record is certainly a big feather in his cap, just like Marshall's superior SR and the completeness of his armoury is a plus point for him.

Apparently Marshall was past his prime at the ripe old age of 34. McGrath carried on for longer as a better bowler. So yeah, the qualification needs to be made.

 

[centurymaker]

Will be fun to see how Murali's test stats look like when only his best 10-11 year period(About as big a career as McG or Marshall) is considered, in the very same 'batting paradise' period tbh.

By a decent margin the best bowler of the post-Bradman era, IMO.

People have to stop looking at just a player's peak....

 

[ankitj]

In your opinion.

There are more rose tinted glass arguments in favour of Marshall, IMO. McGrath was the best at dismissing the best batsmen of the opposition and carried on for longer. I'm not letting a few decimal points and speedometer readings get in the way of rating him the greatest ever. Its always amusing how the pitches turn into bowlers' paradises when discussing the 80's batsmen, but not when discussing the 80s bowlers. Vive la nostalgia.

Minor nitpicking perhaps, but Marshall was picking up best batsmen too. Not sure if you came across this thread. Marshall's average value of wicket is just little less than McGrath's, while bowling average a little lesser. On the metric used in that analysis, Marshall comes out on top, though by less than 1% point. And that analysis actually takes the quality of pitches in general out of picture (tougher the wickets, lesser will be the averages of the batsmen you play against).

You could still rate McGrath ahead, but whether he picked more valuable wickets is not clear cut.

 

[ankitj]

Will be fun to see how Murali's test stats look like when only his best 10-11 year period(About as big a career as McG or Marshall) is considered, in the very same 'batting paradise' period tbh.

By a decent margin the best bowler of the post-Bradman era, IMO.

That will nevertheless be a fun exercise to do. I intend to do that some time, looking at the best 10 year period of bowlers.