If Australia and New Zealand were one country

Mike5181 · 13-01-2011, 12:06 AM

In a hypothetical world Australia and New Zealand joined together and became one country with NZ becoming a seventh state of Australia. Among other things such as the debate over the Pavlova/Rusell Crowe etc that would finally be over this as a result would affect the sports teams from both countries. Say now the international cricket team was then selected from both countries into one hybrid eleven if you like. If you were in charge of the selecting duties who would you pick in your T20/One Day International/Test teams.

You can pick players from anywhere within their respective domestic teams as well as the current international players.

To give you a start here are the New Zealand/Australia Test teams from their last international outing in the format.

Test

New Zealand
1st Test: New Zealand v Pakistan at Hamilton, Jan 7-9, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Australia
5th Test: Australia v England at Sydney, Jan 3-7, 2011 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

What would your One Day teams and T20 teams look like?

I guess you could do this with other teams as well. Australia and New Zealand have had this sort of discussion on this topic before though.

Just a reminder
Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New Zealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chewie · 13-01-2011, 12:19 AM

Tests:

Katich
Watson
Ponting
Clarke
Ryder
Hussey
Haddin
Vettori
Johnson
Harris
Hilfenhaus

Could potentially see Taylor coming in for Clarke or McCullum coming in as an opener but he's not tested enough.

Flem274* · 13-01-2011, 12:20 AM

I demand the immediate deportation of Mike5181 from our shores.

Chewie possibly following him.

Prince EWS · 13-01-2011, 12:21 AM

Haha I was thinking about this not long ago actually - Australia's main problems are finding a spinner who can contribute to the team as part of a five man attack, and the middle order. Those are really the only two things the New Zealand team has pretty well sorted at the moment. Slot Vettori and any two of Ryder/Taylor/Williamson into the Australian Test team and it'd solve a lot. Not saving Vettori is a strike spinner but he could certainly play a role in a five man attack with Watson, and his batting and experience would provide great balance to the team (he's good enough to play Test cricket as a batsman alone in most teams really).

Chewie · 13-01-2011, 12:21 AM

I'm thinking hypothetically... I wouldn't support it at all but it's nice to consider what would happen

Mike5181 · 13-01-2011, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flem274*

I demand the immediate deportation of Mike5181 from our shores.

Chewie possibly following him.

Burgey · 13-01-2011, 12:28 AM

Finally some decent skiing in this country.

kingkallis · 13-01-2011, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flem274*

I demand the immediate deportation of Mike5181 from our shores.

Chewie possibly following him.

hahaha

Flem274* · 13-01-2011, 12:33 AM

If we were forced into making an Oceania XI (with both countries remaining very separate), I would field:

Ingram
How (c)
Sinclair
Taylor
Weston
Oram
van Wyk (w)
Bracewell
Wheeler
Mason
Milne

It's the only eleven players in the region who can win anything.

Mike5181 · 13-01-2011, 12:48 AM

Test team

1. Shane Watson
2. Brendon McCullum
3. Michael Clarke
4. Ross Taylor
5. Michael Hussey
6. Jesse Ryder
7. Brad Haddin +
8. Daniel Vettori (c)
9. Mitchell Johnson
10. Ryan Harris
11. Ben Hilfenhaus

Assuming Katich and Ponting are pretty much in the retiring stage.

Awesome team. Only really the bowling line up that is missing something.

Flem274* · 13-01-2011, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike5181

Test team

1. Shane Watson
2. Brendon McCullum
3. Michael Clarke
4. Ross Taylor
5. Michael Hussey
6. Jesse Ryder
7. Brad Haddin +
8. Daniel Vettori (c)
9. Mitchell Johnson
10. Ryan Harris
11. Ben Hilfenhaus

Assuming Katich and Ponting are pretty much in the retiring stage.

Awesome team. Only really the bowling line up that is missing something.

Martin's batting.

Would take Martin's bowling over Hilf as well.

Zinzan · 13-01-2011, 01:07 AM

lol, How mean would the Rugby League XIII be

angad · 13-01-2011, 01:20 AM

In a hypothetical world India and China can just encircle Australia and annex its land. India and China needs resources to keep expanding at the rate it has. They have population but soon the resources will dry up. The next "World War" might not even involve the US.

Test team -

1. V Sehwag
2. Shane Watson
3. Usman Khawaja
4. Sachin Tendulkar
5. Jesse Ryder
6. VVS Laxman
7. MS Dhoni + (c)
8. H Singh
9. Mitchell Johnson
10. Zaheer Khan
11. Doug Bollinger

Prince EWS · 13-01-2011, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Martin's batting.

Would take Martin's bowling over Hilf as well.

Siddle and Bollinger > both.

morgieb · 13-01-2011, 01:40 AM

I'd say....

Watson
Katich
Ponting
Hussey
Clarke
Ryder
Haddin
Vettori
Johnson
Bollinger
Siddle

Harsh on Taylor, but he's not quite as good as Clarke or Hussey.

13-01-2011, 12:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,387	If Australia and New Zealand were one country In a hypothetical world Australia and New Zealand joined together and became one country with NZ becoming a seventh state of Australia. Among other things such as the debate over the Pavlova/Rusell Crowe etc that would finally be over this as a result would affect the sports teams from both countries. Say now the international cricket team was then selected from both countries into one hybrid eleven if you like. If you were in charge of the selecting duties who would you pick in your T20/One Day International/Test teams. You can pick players from anywhere within their respective domestic teams as well as the current international players. To give you a start here are the New Zealand/Australia Test teams from their last international outing in the format. Test New Zealand 1st Test: New Zealand v Pakistan at Hamilton, Jan 7-9, 2011 \| Cricket Scorecard \| ESPN Cricinfo Australia 5th Test: Australia v England at Sydney, Jan 3-7, 2011 \| Cricket Scorecard \| ESPN Cricinfo What would your One Day teams and T20 teams look like? I guess you could do this with other teams as well. Australia and New Zealand have had this sort of discussion on this topic before though. Just a reminder Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia New Zealand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Last edited by Mike5181; 13-01-2011 at 01:05 AM.

13-01-2011, 12:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
Prince EWS Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 37,711	Haha I was thinking about this not long ago actually - Australia's main problems are finding a spinner who can contribute to the team as part of a five man attack, and the middle order. Those are really the only two things the New Zealand team has pretty well sorted at the moment. Slot Vettori and any two of Ryder/Taylor/Williamson into the Australian Test team and it'd solve a lot. Not saving Vettori is a strike spinner but he could certainly play a role in a five man attack with Watson, and his batting and experience would provide great balance to the team (he's good enough to play Test cricket as a batsman alone in most teams really). __________________ ~ Cribbage Last edited by Prince EWS; 13-01-2011 at 12:23 AM.

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morgieb Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Paradise City Posts: 8,925	I'd say.... Watson Katich Ponting Hussey Clarke Ryder Haddin Vettori Johnson Bollinger Siddle Harsh on Taylor, but he's not quite as good as Clarke or Hussey. __________________ 4-0 RIP Craig Walsh (Craig) 1985-2012 Proudly supporting the #2 cricketer of all time.

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13-01-2011, 12:19 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chewie U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 540	Tests: Katich Watson Ponting Clarke Ryder Hussey Haddin Vettori Johnson Harris Hilfenhaus Could potentially see Taylor coming in for Clarke or McCullum coming in as an opener but he's not tested enough.

13-01-2011, 12:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
Chewie U19 Vice-Captain Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Auckland Posts: 540	I'm thinking hypothetically... I wouldn't support it at all but it's nice to consider what would happen

13-01-2011, 12:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Flem274* Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jeets' sheets Posts: 23,351	If we were forced into making an Oceania XI (with both countries remaining very separate), I would field: Ingram How (c) Sinclair Taylor Weston Oram van Wyk (w) Bracewell Wheeler Mason Milne It's the only eleven players in the region who can win anything.

13-01-2011, 12:48 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mike5181 International Regular Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: City of Sails Posts: 3,387	Test team 1. Shane Watson 2. Brendon McCullum 3. Michael Clarke 4. Ross Taylor 5. Michael Hussey 6. Jesse Ryder 7. Brad Haddin + 8. Daniel Vettori (c) 9. Mitchell Johnson 10. Ryan Harris 11. Ben Hilfenhaus Assuming Katich and Ponting are pretty much in the retiring stage. Awesome team. Only really the bowling line up that is missing something.

13-01-2011, 01:07 AM	#12 (permalink)
Zinzan Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: cover point Posts: 9,734	lol, How mean would the Rugby League XIII be

13-01-2011, 01:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
angad U19 12th Man Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: INDIA Posts: 246	In a hypothetical world India and China can just encircle Australia and annex its land. India and China needs resources to keep expanding at the rate it has. They have population but soon the resources will dry up. The next "World War" might not even involve the US. Test team - 1. V Sehwag 2. Shane Watson 3. Usman Khawaja 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Jesse Ryder 6. VVS Laxman 7. MS Dhoni + (c) 8. H Singh 9. Mitchell Johnson 10. Zaheer Khan 11. Doug Bollinger

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