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Best ever ODI batsman

Who do you think is the best ever ODI batsman?

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ankitj

ankitj

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Mike5181 said:
You could say the same for any position. That is a shallow argument.
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Nothing shallow. You don't have as many great batsmen that bat at no. 7 as you have in the opening slot. A wicket-keeper batsman is therefore easier to slot in as a no. 7 than an opener.

Consider Gilchrist in Tests. If he was an opener and finished with same average and SR, would it be as easy for him to replace Hobbs/Hutton/Gavaskar in an AT XI, and thus be a certain selection?
 
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smash84

smash84

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8ankitj said:
Nothing shallow. You don't have as many great batsmen that bat at no. 7 as you have in the opening slot. A wicket-keeper batsman is therefore easier to slot in as a no. 7 than an opener.

Consider Gilchrist in Tests. If he was an opener and finished with same average and SR, would it be as easy for him to replace Hobbs/Hutton/Gavaskar in an AT XI, and thus be a certain selection?
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But Gilchrist did play some outstanding knocks at 7 early on in his career didn;t he???? After all he did play at 6 or 7 in test matches. He could easily adapt IMO.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

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M0rphin3 said:
Awta but my point was that still the s/r was nothing to write home about for an opener (lower 70's). Was replying to sree's point of 'taking advantage of field restrictions' :)
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That is what I mean, he was an opener in the early to mid 90s (91 to 94, I think) and it is pretty obvious that his SR was pretty much slightly higher than par for course when you compare to openers of that time.
 
vic_orthdox

vic_orthdox

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I really don't know if you lose that much with Gilchrist. Next to Tendulkar, it's not a bad tactic to have an explosive guy next to him; obviously Tendy can do that, but it takes the pressure off him and lets him set himself to bat through the innings. It's worked well with Sehwag in recent times.

I think Gilchrist is probably as good (not necessarily better) as anyone else in that role - thinking about guys like Jayasuriya, Sehwag, etc. It can also allow me to play someone like Kapil Dev/Lance Klusner at 7 in my line-up, which might be harder to do if I included Dhoni in the side; would have to bat Dhoni at 6, which wouldn't be the worst thing, obviously. I just think that my side looks better balanced with Gilly opening.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

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vic_orthdox said:
I really don't know if you lose that much with Gilchrist. Next to Tendulkar, it's not a bad tactic to have an explosive guy next to him; obviously Tendy can do that, but it takes the pressure off him and lets him set himself to bat through the innings. It's worked well with Sehwag in recent times.

I think Gilchrist is probably as good (not necessarily better) as anyone else in that role - thinking about guys like Jayasuriya, Sehwag, etc. It can also allow me to play someone like Kapil Dev/Lance Klusner at 7 in my line-up, which might be harder to do if I included Dhoni in the side; would have to bat Dhoni at 6, which wouldn't be the worst thing, obviously. I just think that my side looks better balanced with Gilly opening.
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I would take Lara,Tendulkar, Richards and Ponting as my top 4 in ODIs, in that order, just for the sheer awesomeness of it.. :)
 
ankitj

ankitj

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honestbharani said:
I would take Lara,Tendulkar, Richards and Ponting as my top 4 in ODIs, in that order, just for the sheer awesomeness of it.. :)
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You don't think much of Zaheer Abbas and Dean Jones? :unsure: They were specialist, innovative ODI batsman. I will have them over Ponting.
 
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G.I.Joe

G.I.Joe

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8ankitj said:
You don't think much of Zaheer Abbas and Dean Jones? :unsure: They were specialist, innovative ODI batsman. I will have them over Ponting.
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I'd rather have Ponting tbh. If an Abbas/Jones type batsman was required, Dhoni's a better option IMO. Brings more to the table.
 
vcs

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Not his fault obviously, but I just saw that Abbas has played a total of 62 ODI matches. Tendulkar when in his teens (or early twenties) had already played around 78 ODIs, still hadn't got an ODI hundred, and was averaging in the early 30s. Very hard to compare two batsmen when there's such a huge difference in sample size.
 
Howe_zat

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zaremba said:
One solitary vote for Dean Jones is surprising IMHO

Not that I voted for him, obv
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Not that surprising, did well to get one vote to be honest. Not that I don't rate him, just that I suspect there's a fair amount of tactical voting among the three obvious picks.
 
slugger

slugger

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Howe_zat said:
Not that surprising, did well to get one vote to be honest. Not that I don't rate him, just that I suspect there's a fair amount of tactical voting among the three obvious picks.
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maybe if this pole was put together in the mid ninties... he probably would have done very well, dean jones was probably one of the examples of how to play an odi inn that others built upon.
 
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