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    The Franklin selection is just to infuriate Wellington.
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    Can't Win Anything Lately Not Even a Toss

    In New Zealand's last 10 matches in all forms of the game they have won the toss 5 times and lost it five times. In their last 6 matches they have lost the toss 5 times.

    Still that isn't so bad now is it?

    In Test matches we haven't won a toss since 2009, and have lost the toss 5 times in a row. In the last 10 matches we have only won the toss twice (against Pakistan and the last match against India in NZ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    The Franklin selection is just to infuriate Wellington.
    Fantastic idea imo.
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    Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.
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    Um, until this match didn't Dhoni have a 10 in a row losing streak?
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    It's not under your control to decide the fine line between a decision that was surely not out and one that could go either way. The batsman doesn't get to watch himself from the other end. He's probably in an even worse position to make that marginal call than the umpire giving the decision! You just have to watch the reactions of batsmen out LBW to know how much faith to repose in their own judgement. Like Sanz said, its just shifting the blame from the umpire to the batsman. Just have a universal review system in place and be done with it instead of playing mindgames with the players.
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    Franklin should improve the team IMO. Drop Watling for him, even if that just means batting Franklin at 3.

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    Franklin would mean we could keep going with our 2 man seam attack meaning Jeets may get another.

    But Franklin having to bat 3 would be ITSTL. Would we move Williamson to 3 on his 2nd Test? No point in batting Franklin or Hopkins at 9 so one of Taylor, Ryder, Williamson has to bat 3.

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    Franklin might not play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Franklin might not play.
    Yeah if he doesn't the team is easier to pick. So ****ing frustrating to steal an Avenger to put him on the bench though. Why didn't they grab Tuffey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Franklin would mean we could keep going with our 2 man seam attack meaning Jeets may get another.

    But Franklin having to bat 3 would be ITSTL. Would we move Williamson to 3 on his 2nd Test? No point in batting Franklin or Hopkins at 9 so one of Taylor, Ryder, Williamson has to bat 3.
    Or Franklin could just bat three!

    I seriously think he'd be a better selection than Watling there, although I think Watling is a lot ****ter than most people so it probably won't happen. It'd improve the team without making wholesale changes to the middle order. It's a bit out of the box, but it's not like it'd be messing with the career of a promising young batsman - he's tried and failed as a specialist batsman and recalled based on the balance his allround skills would give to the team, so he can bat where he's told IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Franklin might not play.
    Yeah, obviously. I think he should though.

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    I would also rather Franklin at 3 TBH. Cannot be a more hopeless player of spin than ****ling.
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    My theory is that this is the moment where Bennett injured his groin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    So Franklin comes back into the side. The batting did so well that unless there's a significant reshuffle in the order (which I can't imagine even these selectors would be desperate enough to attempt), he's going to have to come in as a replacement for one of the bowlers. India would be tough even for a pre-injury Franklin. These days, he could only really bowl from overs 1-15 and overs 65-80. The rest of the time, the lack of swing/reverse swing would see him get killed. Still might be a better bet than Patel though, and if our goal is to get two draws, then adding another batsman to the lineup wouldn't be a bad idea, though Franklin never was a good player of spin.

    McCullum, McIntosh, Hummer Watling, Taylor, Ryder, Williamson, Vettori, Franklin, ****kins, Arnel, Martin
    I like that 11. I definitely think Franklin should play in place of Patel.

    Here are the stats from the first test for NZ's 3 main (fit) bowlers:
    Martin
    51 overs, 138 runs, 6 wickets, Avg 23, Econ rate 2.7

    Vettori
    93 overs, 199 runs, 6 wickets, Avg 33, Econ rate 2.1

    Patel
    52 overs, 207 runs, 3 wickets, Avg 69, Econ rate 3.9



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