Playing for a winning Team

[Sanz]

Does it help a player perform better when he plays for a winning team ? I will use Tendulkar's example, His average under 3 different captains :-

Dhoni :- 81.33
Ganguly :- 62.80
Azhar :- 59.79

 

[akilana]

look at dravid's average under all captaions.

 

[Jono]

Laxman has never been captain. Would be interesting to compare his averages under Sachin, Ganguly, Dravid, Kumble and Dhoni.

 

[vcs]

G. I. Joe posted that Laxman averages 50 if you take out the matches where he was shoehorned in as an opener. That is a terrific record for a number 6 batsman, especially when you consider how crucial so many of those runs have been.

 

[Slifer]

Does it help a player perform better when he plays for a winning team ? I will use Tendulkar's example, His average under 3 different captains :-

Dhoni :- 81.33
Ganguly :- 62.80
Azhar :- 59.79

I think it has more to do with the fact that bowling during Azhars and Ganguly's tenures were probably better than they r now. I could be wrong just my thought.

 

[biased indian]

Does it help a player perform better when he plays for a winning team ? I will use Tendulkar's example, His average under 3 different captains :-

Dhoni :- 81.33
Ganguly :- 62.80
Azhar :- 59.79

where is the record when he was the captain

 

[marc71178]

G. I. Joe posted that Laxman averages 50 if you take out the matches where he was shoehorned in as an opener. That is a terrific record for a number 6 batsman, especially when you consider how crucial so many of those runs have been.

Although that is slightly tempered by the consideration that Ian Bell averages over 50 at number 6...

 

[vcs]

Bell and Laxman do not belong in the same sentence at this point in time.

 

[Spikey]

Laxman has a Bell for an alarm clock.

 

[vcs]

I stand corrected.

 

[Sanz]

Few things,

This thread is not limited to Tendulkar. Please feel free to compare any player performance in a winning/losing team.

I used Tendulkar as an example because I was doing a stats project on him for my class and looking at his stats in detail.

 

[Sanz]

where is the record when he was the captain

Batting Record or Record as captain ?

 

[Jarquis]

Bell and Laxman do not belong in the same sentence at this point in time.

Bell's been pretty ****ing awesome since his recall tbh.

 

[vcs]

Bell's been pretty ****ing awesome since his recall tbh.

Hence the "at this point in time" part.

 

[tooextracool]

Has he really? I cant help but feel that you have low standards for "pretty ****ing awesome".

Hes batted like this before, what he hasnt shown in the past is the ability to score 100s consistently. And he hasnt showed that yet either

 

[Jarquis]

3 centuries in his last 17 innings....
Since his recall only Sachin, Sehwag, Jayawardenes, Amla and Sangakarra have scored more runs with a better 100s/Innings rate.

 

[tooextracool]

3 centuries in his last 17 innings....
Since his recall only Sachin, Sehwag, Jayawardenes, Amla and Sangakarra have scored more runs with a better 100s/Innings rate.

That is great, except 2 are against Bangladesh. Performances against test class sides only please. 1 century in 7 tests since his return last summer. Thats the old Bell we know and dont love

 

[Jarquis]

Runs are runs, India made hay against them as well.
Still, my initial point was slightly misinformed, though he averaged closer to 65 than 50 in the time period mentioned. I was wrong.