"I want to raise my hand and say one thing. Those who complain about my love for the game or commitment to the game are clueless. These are the only 2 areas where I give myself 100 out of 100."
- Sachin Tendulkar, as told in an interview published in Bengali newspaper Anandabazar Patrika after his 100th International century (translated by weldone)
And going by your logic, I don't understand why you won't vote for Ranji! Because he had a much much better average than Grace???? Huh, what a reason for not voting for someone!
By the way, in case of the likes of Lillywhite, I agree with your comment.
Last edited by weldone; 12-10-2010 at 12:56 PM.
I get your point about comparison between Grace and Ranji. I stand corrected. However I am still unable to properly judge how good he was compared to others of later years. With Grace, people tend to either put him among top 5 or don't put him in such lists at all. Failing to do the former, I can't possibly decide if say he was a tad better than Greg Chappel but a tad lesser than Wally Hammond etc. So I still can't vote for him.
The "Bradman is best" school of thought essentially takes his superiority over his peers as its yardstick and no one can argue with the fact that his overall career average is so much higher than all comers
It isn't that clearcut though - when WG scored his 50th century he had scored 31.44% of all the first class centuries scored by that time - the next highest was the long since consigned to obscurity Harry Jupp with 10 - I would suggest that is an even greater degree of dominance than Bradman demonstrated.
Would Grace have scored as heavily as Bradman on 1930's shirtfronts? Who knows - perhaps not
Would Bradman have eclipsed Grace in Victorian times on those "sporting" wickets? Who knows - perhaps not
One of them is the greatest batsman who ever lived - but which one? - personally I think its Grace but doubtless few will agree with me
etc etc etc...
Rank 1: Donald Bradman
Rank 2: Jack Hobbs
Rank 3: Garry Sobers
Rank 4: Viv Richards
I shall be maintaining two different counts: one showing how many of the already ranked players played in which decade, and the other for opener-middle order split.
1890 and before: 0
1901-10: 1 (25%)
1911-20: 1 (25%)
1921-30: 2 (50%)
1931-40: 1 (25%)
1941-50: 1 (25%)
1951-60: 1 (25%)
1961-70: 1 (25%)
1971-80: 2 (50%)
1981-90: 1 (25%)
1991-2000: 1 (25%)
Opener-Middle Order Split
Opener: 1 (25%)
Middle order: 3 (75%)
The voting process for rank 5 starts.
My votes are:
Wally Hammond (3 points)
Leonard Hutton (2 points)
Sachin Tendulkar (1 point)
Last edited by weldone; 12-10-2010 at 02:53 PM.
3 - Chappell G
2 - Ponting
1 - Sutcliffe
I think there'll sooner be another Bradman than another Warne. - Gidgeon Haigh
[Warne is] the greatest bowler ever produced in this entire world - Muttiah Muralidaran
[Warne is] the greatest bowler of all time - Glenn McGrath
In my opinion Shane Warne is the greatest cricketer who's ever lived - Ian Botham
Warne is the greatest cricketer to pick up a ball ever.
And is the greatest bowler I have ever laid eyes on. - Brian Lara
Herbert, we need an opener.
The story of my avatar? Just a tribute to the funniest/comical guy in Test cricket today. Even if he doesn't know it.
lara - 3 pts
grace - 2 pts
headley -1 pt
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