"Rowdy" Ryder in trouble again.

[Sir Alex]

New Zealand news: Jesse Ryder in trouble for late night noise | New Zealand Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

Gun batsman but such a **** mentally.

 

[kingpin]

haha....

 

[Howsie]

Ah well, you come to expect this everytime he's rehabbing an injury.

 

[Zinzan]

Grrrr, the big lad is running on thin ice

 

[Noble One]

I love Ryder, such a character. Unfortunate for him that he plays in the wrong era in which your every move is followed and reported.

 

[Rant0r]

Although being from a relatively weak country, they'll persist with him, one day he'll "write" an autobiography to behold

 

[Jezroy]

Ah well, you come to expect this everytime he's rehabbing an injury.

He was in a squad playing indoor cricket.

Think it was his birthday too.

Highlights the difference though between someone who likes a drink and someone with a drinking problem.

Most people who like a drink won't get themselves into this kind of trouble.

Or take on toilet windows.

 

[Flem274*]

Can we just pick him anyway?

My conscience and moral code can only take so many middle order collapses.

 

[Jezroy]

Can we just pick him anyway?

My conscience and moral code can only take so many middle order collapses.

My brain says "I don't care if the guy is alcoholic or not" - if he turns up and scores runs it doesn't really bother me what he does in his spare time.

But reality is that his lack of discipline has taken him out of the scene before (toilet window incident), and could well have contributed to his most recent layoff (not saying drinking, saying his lack of discipline.

But the thing that really worries me is if you were Guptill/Williamson/Watling/an upcoming player putting in the hard yards, wouldn't it **** you off that this very talented guy was breaking team protocols and curfews (presumably), and just turning up and scoring runs anyway. What worries me is his negative impact on the team.

 

[Hurricane]

From tvnz website

Troubled Black Caps batsman Jesse Ryder will have his current contract torn up and re-written by New Zealand Cricket.

Ryder has been charged with serious misconduct by New Zealand Cricket after a complaint was laid against the group he was drinking with at a Christchurch hotel last month.

New Zealand Cricket General Manager Geoff Allott says his penalty will include specific rules around drinking.

However, Allott refused to say exactly what those rules would be.

If the rules for drinking are too harsh this may be the end of Jesse.

 

[Somerset]

Highlights the difference though between someone who likes a drink and someone with a drinking problem.

Thats quite well put. Obviously this particular incident is not so serious in isolation but after his past indiscretions I can see why NZC have taken the stance they have.

 

[Flem274*]

Great, so when our good players aren't getting injured they're getting in trouble instead.

 

[Athlai]

Mountain Molehill etc.

 

[Jezroy]

Mountain Molehill etc.

I think if it was anyone else - then yes, not such a big deal.

But a guy with a well documented alcohol problem? I don't think any incident can be underestimated.

 

[Jezroy]

From tvnz website


If the rules for drinking are too harsh this may be the end of Jesse.

Na - at worst he would just not get a central contract. He would still get a Wellington contract plus whatever match payments he got.

 

[Hurricane]

You might be right but it would be the end of his NZ career. I could see them putting in restrictions similar to the Andrew Symonds restrictions like no drinking in public. And then some fringe player on the team like Hopkins will dobb him in for having a quiet one after a tour game somewhere in India. And that will be all she wrote.

 

[Athlai]

I think if it was anyone else - then yes, not such a big deal.

But a guy with a well documented alcohol problem? I don't think any incident can be underestimated.

The guy does have a problem but he did immediately own up to this and bring it the board's attention. Nor does it specify that he was doing anything naughty besides drinking with some rowdy boys. The guy hasn't been banned from alcohol AFAIK.

 

[Jezroy]

The guy does have a problem but he did immediately own up to this and bring it the board's attention. Nor does it specify that he was doing anything naughty besides drinking with some rowdy boys. The guy hasn't been banned from alcohol AFAIK.

Na. If he had been banned from alcohol he would have been long gone. I just hope the guy can turn it around. Not just for fans of this NZ team. But for himself. It would be sad to see any of his talent going to waste because of the issues he has.

 

[Jezroy]

And we know this hasn't happened...

Ryder Swear Off Alcohol

Sounds like a Tui ad to me.

 

[Rant0r]

Can we just pick him anyway?

My conscience and moral code can only take so many middle order collapses.

Haha, wicked, but i'd agree

My brain says "I don't care if the guy is alcoholic or not" - if he turns up and scores runs it doesn't really bother me what he does in his spare time.

But reality is that his lack of discipline has taken him out of the scene before (toilet window incident), and could well have contributed to his most recent layoff (not saying drinking, saying his lack of discipline.

But the thing that really worries me is if you were Guptill/Williamson/Watling/an upcoming player putting in the hard yards, wouldn't it **** you off that this very talented guy was breaking team protocols and curfews (presumably), and just turning up and scoring runs anyway. What worries me is his negative impact on the team.

Unfortunately this is an elite level of cricket, someone with his obvious talents will be given every opportunity over a less talented player who works hard, that's just a fact. Ricky Ponting got thrown out of a Sydney nightclub with 2 black eyes once, but he's Ricky Ponting.