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Old 07-04-2011, 04:35 AM   #2056 (permalink)
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He's playing for Canterbury now. Don't be ridiculous. He'll be out the door for someone from the North Island after a few failures. Maybe Jamie How will become a keeper so they can keep using him. :S

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Old 07-04-2011, 04:46 AM   #2057 (permalink)
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It's the end of the season so, in true NZ style, I am now going to convince myself that there is lots of hope for the future and good developing players will be coming through next season. Awesome. It's a pity I'm already unimpressed with our schedule.

For starters, I'm quite hopeful about a bowling attack of Southee, Martin and McKay in tests. If McKay can bowl as well as it sounds like he has been at the end of the season, then that could be a half decent attack. Boult and Wagner make a case for possible selection sooner or later (once Martin retires). Arnel has probably ruled himself out with the way he bowled vs Pakistan. Put Tuffey in the same basket.

Todd Astle is a big question. In my mind (not necessarily connected to the real world), it makes sense that a talented legspinner is debuted sooner rather than later. I suspect NZ domestic batsmen are not very good at playing legspin full stop... so Astle may just be picking up many of his wickets by virtue of that, and that may stall his development. It makes sense to me that he needs to start learning to bowl to batsmen who are used to playing legspin (ie. internationals), even if it runs the risk of damaging his confidence. Memo to NZ selectors - please do not debut Astle in ODIs.

If Astle is to play, he bats eight, Vettori at six and no room for anyone like Broom, Flynn or Franklin, sorry.

I don't know why we're talking about dropping Reece Young for de Boorder. Young has kept reasonably and already scored a fifty; a feat that Dropkins never managed once. Can't complain about a little healthy competition of course, but give Young a chance.

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- McCullum and Franklin both showed glimpses of putting behind their flaky ways this season, only to re-establish themselves as absentees when the going got tough in the World Cup. Which McCullum and Franklin will show up next season? For starters, can only see Franklin near a playing XI if Styris retires from ODIs. Then again, McCullum might give away the gloves in ODIs and take Styris' spot instead. McCullum desperately needs runs - the knives will come out very quickly if he fails as test opener against Australia.

Am going to assume Taylor gets the captaincy. Seems the more logical choice.

Hoping Guptill, Ryder, Taylor and Williamson can do what they've been threatening to do for a while and combine into a formidable (relatively speaking) batting unit. Ryder staying fit would be a good start.

.... and now let's all go and hibernate the winter away until next season.

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Old 07-04-2011, 08:55 AM   #2058 (permalink)
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Has Vettori given up captaincy in all formats? I thought it was only for ODIs...
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Old 07-04-2011, 02:55 PM   #2059 (permalink)
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Has Vettori given up captaincy in all formats? I thought it was only for ODIs...
Yep, he's given up the captaincy in all formats. You'd think it'd make more sense that Vettori would keep the test captaincy for a couple of years whilst Taylor finds his feet in the ODI and T20 formats. But I think Vettori just got sick and tired of being the front-man for a team that always disappointed, so he's extracated himself from the role completely.
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:12 PM   #2060 (permalink)
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ND chief 'ropeable' over error on NZC website | Stuff.co.nz

lol, what a screw up. You'd think counting the number of wins a team has in a 10 round competition would be fairly easy, obviously not however.
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Old 07-04-2011, 05:36 PM   #2061 (permalink)
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It's bad enough when Cricket Wellington regularly bugger up the club cricket league tables, but that's incredibly amateur stuff from NZC.
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Old 07-04-2011, 10:51 PM   #2063 (permalink)
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hey I have thought it was a good time to add alittle colour to the 4 day game, Im not trying to make it a one day uniform as I have left the uniform largely white, including pads. feed back appreciated.



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Old 08-04-2011, 12:18 AM   #2064 (permalink)
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Todd Astle is a big question. In my mind (not necessarily connected to the real world), it makes sense that a talented legspinner is debuted sooner rather than later. I suspect NZ domestic batsmen are not very good at playing legspin full stop... so Astle may just be picking up many of his wickets by virtue of that, and that may stall his development. It makes sense to me that he needs to start learning to bowl to batsmen who are used to playing legspin (ie. internationals), even if it runs the risk of damaging his confidence. Memo to NZ selectors - please do not debut Astle in ODIs
Todd Astle is the perfect example of why New Zealand cricket must schedule proper "A" tours as often as possible. His performances over the last two first class seasons haven't been seen by a spinner in this country for sometime, but is that down to his ability with the ball or the inability of the batsmen he's bowling too? It's definitely not something you want to risk finding out at the international level IMO.

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Old 08-04-2011, 01:11 AM   #2065 (permalink)
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hey I have thought it was a good time to add alittle colour to the 4 day game, Im not trying to make it a one day uniform as I have left the uniform largely white, including pads. feed back appreciated.
The CD one looks good - the red ball might get lost against those canterbury colours though
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Old 08-04-2011, 03:04 PM   #2066 (permalink)
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.... and now let's all go and hibernate the winter away until next season.
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:34 PM   #2067 (permalink)
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lol, what a screw up. You'd think counting the number of wins a team has in a 10 round competition would be fairly easy, obviously not however.
Heh excuses. If you're in a sports team you should know how many wins you have. Pretty retarded on both counts.
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It wasn't the number of wins ND had, it was the number Canterbury had
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Also crew, I think it's about time we got the 2011/2012 thread underway. I'll be moving posts around and I'll throw up the contract list and the schedule in the original post.
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