Page 12 of 138 FirstFirst ... 210111213142262112 ... LastLast
Results 166 to 180 of 2069

Thread: *** Official New Zealand Domestic Season Thread 2010/11 ***

  1. #166
    JJD Heads Athlai's Avatar
    Duck Hunt Champion! Plops Champion!
    Tournaments Won: 2
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl:lsFJg/s
    Posts
    27,489
    Southee
    Tuffey
    Martin
    Arnel
    Mills

    McKay/Mason
    Aldridge

    Bennett
    Milne
    Direbirds FTW!

    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Wellington will win the whole thing next year. Mark my words.
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    I'll offer up my avatar to Athlai forever if Wellington wins the Champions League.
    President of T.I.T.S
    Tamim Is Talented Society

  2. #167
    Global Moderator Prince EWS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Moving to Somalia
    Posts
    43,530
    Tuffey
    Bennett
    Wells
    De Grandhomme
    Sinclair
    Elliott

    ~ Cribbage ~

    Rejecting 'analysis by checklist' and 'skill absolutism' since December 2009

  3. #168
    JJD Heads Athlai's Avatar
    Duck Hunt Champion! Plops Champion!
    Tournaments Won: 2
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl:lsFJg/s
    Posts
    27,489
    Sim the next matches then you ****

  4. #169
    Cricketer Of The Year Hurricane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Stopping the AFL spreading to NZ
    Posts
    9,844
    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Why is Tuffey so far down your list
    IF I could frankenstein Tuffeys expereince and smarts with Bennets abilities he would be one of the better bowlers going around. Just a bit concerned about him bowling in the 120s. I guess I could have placed him higher. Where would you have placed him.

    Rated him below Mills as Mills does more with the ball. And always liked Mason. If only he was a bit more consistent he would still be playing for NZ.
    And I guess I have Mckay and Bennet in there for their potential.
    Quote Originally Posted by HeathDavisSpeed View Post
    I got great enjoyment in going to the game and shouting "WHY THE **** ISN'T THIS GAME BEING PLAYED AT THE BASIN?!>!?!?" to reasonably significant cheers from the sparse crowd
    Proudly against the bring back Bennett movement since he is injury prone and won't last 5 days.


  5. #170
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Flem274*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl;lsFJg/s
    Posts
    28,390
    Mason just got the one test match. I don't think he was seen as much of a strike bowler, that and we never had to look past (over Mason's career) Bond, Franklin, Cairns, Nash, Martin, Tuffey and Oram to be our seamers.

    By the time those guys all went for one reason or another, Mason was about 33-34 and not seen as a long term option. It was between him and O'Brien to be the 30+ seamer imo, and because O'Brien was a tad quicker and a bit younger he got an opportunity first and took it with both hands.

    I do think Mason could have been quite a decent test bowler though if he'd been given more opportunities. Gets plenty of bounce and seam movement and is very accurate. He's on the way out now though.
    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Well yeah Tendy is probably better than Bradman, but Bradman was 70 years ago, if he grew up in the modern era he'd still easily be the best. Though he wasn't, can understand the argument for Tendy even though I don't agree.
    Proudly supporting Central Districts
    RIP Craig Walsh

  6. #171
    International Vice-Captain Howsie's Avatar
    Super Mario Rampage 1 Champion!
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    4,952
    1.Tim Southee
    2.Brent Arnel
    3.Hamish Bennett
    4.Andy McKay
    5.Kyle Mills
    6.Darryl Tuffey
    7.Chris Martin
    8.Graeme Aldridge
    9.Michael Mason
    10.Trent Boult

    Something like that anyway. I'd have Boult a lot higher once he's actually bowling at full fitness.

  7. #172
    Cricketer Of The Year Hurricane's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Stopping the AFL spreading to NZ
    Posts
    9,844
    yeah thanks for that Flem I was out of NZ for most of Mason's career so that was new information for me. First time I saw him was in an ODI and I saw him bowl a perfect outswinger and thought that guy is money. I love the way his outswinger wobbles.

    But then as I watched him - in the next few games he would release the pressure off the batsman with a boundary delivery at in opportune times. And then he would bowl well only to pick up a niggly injury.

    Love his run up and bowling action. He definitely makes NZ FC cricket a better place for being a part of it,

  8. #173
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Flem274*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl;lsFJg/s
    Posts
    28,390
    Anyway, the best seamers in the country as of right now imo are:

    Tier 1: Brent Arnel, Tim Southee, Iain O'Brien

    Tier 2: Andre Adams, Michael Mason, Darryl Tuffey

    Tier 3: Chris Martin, Andy McKay, Hamish Bennett, Graeme Aldridge, James Franklin, Adam Milne

    Those are subject to change though. I honestly don't think there is much of a difference in the tiers at all, though there is a little bit of distance between the tiers. Bennett and McKay are tier 3 mainly because I'm undecided on them, and there's other bowlers around who could be in the above lists except I've seen none of them.

    Imo we have a whole bunch of bowlers who are of a very similar quality.

  9. #174
    International Vice-Captain Howsie's Avatar
    Super Mario Rampage 1 Champion!
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    4,952
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Imo we have a whole bunch of bowlers who are of a very similar quality.
    Yeah. But instead of giving guys regular game time who might actually become good bowlers - your Southee's, Bennett's etc we'll see the same old dinosaurs wheeled out who aren't actually any better and are a good 8-10 years older.

  10. #175
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Flem274*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl;lsFJg/s
    Posts
    28,390
    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Yeah. But instead of giving guys regular game time who might actually become good bowlers - your Southee's, Bennett's etc we'll see the same old dinosaurs wheeled out who aren't actually any better and are a good 8-10 years older.
    Now there's an idea...



    Yeah whatever...



    Bring it ****s!

  11. #176
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Flem274*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl;lsFJg/s
    Posts
    28,390
    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Yeah. But instead of giving guys regular game time who might actually become good bowlers - your Southee's, Bennett's etc we'll see the same old dinosaurs wheeled out who aren't actually any better and are a good 8-10 years older.
    Should go with a mix imo. Chucking three n00bs in at one go (Southee, Bennett, McKay or whoever the next bloke they pick is) is a bit OTT (I know you're not advocating it).

    Since we have a whole bunch of similar quality bowlers we should look to vary our attack as much as possible, so we have a bit of everything.

    Would be great if O'Brien returns, even if it's just a couple of series. He retired as a bowler head and shoulders above the rest of the country.

  12. #177
    Hall of Fame Member _Ed_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Auckland, Aotearoa
    Posts
    19,857
    Quote Originally Posted by Flem274* View Post
    Anyway, the best seamers in the country as of right now imo are:

    Tier 1: Brent Arnel, Tim Southee, Iain O'Brien

    Tier 2: Andre Adams, Michael Mason, Darryl Tuffey

    Tier 3: Chris Martin, Andy McKay, Hamish Bennett, Graeme Aldridge, James Franklin, Adam Milne

    Those are subject to change though. I honestly don't think there is much of a difference in the tiers at all, though there is a little bit of distance between the tiers. Bennett and McKay are tier 3 mainly because I'm undecided on them, and there's other bowlers around who could be in the above lists except I've seen none of them.

    Imo we have a whole bunch of bowlers who are of a very similar quality.
    Whereabouts in that would you put Mills?

  13. #178
    Request Your Custom Title Now! Flem274*'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    ksfls;fsl;lsFJg/s
    Posts
    28,390
    Quote Originally Posted by _Ed_ View Post
    Whereabouts in that would you put Mills?
    Woops.

    Probably tier 2.

  14. #179
    U19 Vice-Captain Halfpast_Yellow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2006
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    582
    If you remember Mason's one debut test at the Basin vs South Africa, he really went to pieces mentally. His run up was shot, he was delivering the ball a good metre behind the crease. A bit like that time Sinclair was looking awful at the basin too but from a bowler perspective. I remember the commentators joking that Cairns should move his marker up when he wasn't looking!

    I always liked him too and was sad for him that happened and he never got given another chance after that to make amends. I remember he was cleaning up the domestic season and saw a few games were he was just putting ball after ball right on the spot and really troubling the batsmen.

    He got given a go in some ODIs and was going well, then got injured. And it seems the selectors never 'liked' him.

    I suppose when you have a face like that
    Last edited by Halfpast_Yellow; 01-11-2010 at 04:04 AM.

  15. #180
    Hall of Fame Member NZTailender's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Location
    Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
    Posts
    19,498
    Mason should've played that Test vs Bangers in Dunedin a few years back instead of being twelth man. Would still be in the side now IMO.
    President of SKAS - Kat is King | Proud member of CVAAS - One of the best | LRPLTAS - Rosco rocks!
    The NZTailender Supporting XI:
    H Rutherford, T Latham, N Broom, M Bracewell, D Brownlie, BJ Watling, D de Boorder+, M Henry, B Wheeler, H Bennett, A Milne
    Go Tigers!
    R.I.P. Fardin & Craig



Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Official NFL 2009-2010 Thread
    By 99* in forum General Sports Forum
    Replies: 41
    Last Post: 08-02-2010, 02:58 AM
  2. Retirements for Season 4
    By Simon in forum World Club Cricket
    Replies: 38
    Last Post: 11-07-2009, 02:57 PM
  3. Sri Lanka Thread
    By chaminda_00 in forum 2009 ICC World Twenty20
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 05-05-2009, 05:29 AM
  4. Records
    By Dizzy #4 in forum Statistics and Records
    Replies: 82
    Last Post: 20-09-2007, 11:17 PM
  5. Official NBA 2006-2007 season thread
    By Dravid in forum General Sports Forum
    Replies: 986
    Last Post: 29-06-2007, 03:31 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •